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When this clip came out, there was a bunch of yassssssing and sistaguhlin, because sisters believed that Miss Williams "spoke a word.":gurl:
I listened to the accomplished and eloquent Miss Williams and I laughed.:myman:
To quote Shadow Henderson from Mo' Better Blues:
"Everything you just said is bullshyt.":pachaha:
Let's break it down.

She said that she ain't paying no bills but she will create a comfortable, loving home environment where her husband is the "king of the castle". House clean, meals ready, laundry done, kids squared away.:leon:
Of course, she's speaking for herself. Homemaking is a full time job. So I assume that when Eboni gets married, she's going to quit all of her current career endeavors because it is not possible with the schedule she has now to do all the shyt she promised to do in that clip.

Chicks are trying to revive the "traditional" marriage model from back in the day when men provided for the entire family and the women stayed home. The problem is that they don't realize that a) that model was still flawed back then and b) society has changed in such a way where that model isn't truly sustainable anymore. All women hear is the "men pay for everything/don't gotta work" part. Homemaking and child rearing is definitely work.

If your wife is cleaning the house, cooking the meals, doing the laundry, doing the household shopping, running errands, and dealing with the kids, you know what that makes her? :russell:Tired. She's also going to be resentful. Sooner or later, she's going to feel like a servant and she's going to get pissed off about it. Guess who is going to be the focus of that hostility?

Your working hours spent away from home will translate in her mind as you reveling in a glorious freedom outside the house where you're out having a helluva time doing whatever you please. Every day. :blessed:While she's stuck in this house cleaning up after everybody. She's not going to want to hear your office stories, she not gonna want you to sit down and watch TV to unwind once you get home from work, she's not going to want to fix you a plate, and the last thing on her mind is giving you some p*ssy.:usure:



This is where the push for women to enter the workforce in the 60's came from. This is when we started to see a sharp increase in divorces in the 70's. In the extreme, this is also the root cause for various extramarital affairs on both sides, murders of husbands and children, and suicides among women who were housewives. At some point, while cleaning that nice house, she's going to catch a glimpse of herself in the mirror in a dirty t-shirt and a head rag and wonder "What about my dreams?".:mjcry:

Which brings us back to Eboni. Eboni is accomplished in her career and has her own money. She probably has a slew of passive revenue streams. Her and her future family are more than likely going to live in a large home that can't be maintained by one person. Let's be real. Eboni will have a nanny and a domestic staff. :mjpls:So Eboni's situation is going to be a lot different from the average woman's marriage even if the man is making enough to support the entire family. She's not going to spend her days and nights cooking, cleaning, and doing laundry.:duck: Don't believe that.

But at least Eboni is nice enough to sell you that deluxe bullshyt package. Some of the young gold diggers will tell you flat out they don't do housework.:hubie:

tl;dr: When they say "If you work and pay the bills, your house will be taken care of!", tread carefully.




oh yeah, one star for hoe babble *checks box*
 
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OP..

I didn't get a chance to watch the clip yet. I will get to it...

However, based on what you know about this woman, does she have a husband who is willing to have her stay at home while she perform her wifely duties?

BTW, I agree with you...She isn't gonna do all of the shyt she said she would do. Nobody these days cooks, cleans, etc. all day/everyday...
 
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OP..

I didn't get a chance to watch the clip yet. I will get to it...

However, based on what you k ow about this woman, does she have a husband who is willing to have her stay at home while she perform her wifely duties?

BTW, I agree with you...She isn't gonna do all of the shyt she said she would do. Nobody these days cooks, cleans, etc. all day/everyday...

She's single.
Her excuse is that there are no eligible single men on her economic level. Which is bullshyt.
I'll give her props for being a self made Black woman who communicates intelligently even if I disagree at times.
 

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She's single.
Her excuse is that there are no eligible single men on her economic level. Which is bullshyt.
I'll give her props for being a self made Black woman who communicates intelligently even if I disagree at times.

Iono Breh..

Based on what you shared, she sounds like she wanna live like an affluent white woman. *shrugs*

If she wanna have those high standards, then cool. If she wanna believe there are no available men on her economic level, then cool.

When she get tired of her being single, then she will tone it down and be more flexible with her expectations....
 

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I AGREE WITH HER VIEWPOINT. HOWEVER, THAT TRADITIONAL RELATIONSHIP COMES WITH DRAWBACKS. YOU HAVE TO BE WILLING DEAL WITH THOSE DRAWBACKS.

MOST MEN TODAY ARE NOT WILLING TO DEAL WITH THOSE DRAWBACKS BUT THEY WANT A WOMAN TO DO THOSE THINGS.

I HAVE NOTICED AN INCREASE IN GUYS WHO DON'T EVEN WANT THAT STUFF. THEY ARE FINE WITH 50/50 DOWN THE MIDDLE ON EVERYTHING. THEY JUST WANT A ROOMMATE THAT THEY CAN fukk BASICALLY. NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT EITHER.

AS LONG AS YOU UNDERSTAND THE PROS/CONS OF WHAT YOU WANT, GO BE HAPPY.
 

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I AGREE WITH HER VIEWPOINT. HOWEVER, THAT TRADITIONAL RELATIONSHIP COMES WITH DRAWBACKS. YOU HAVE TO BE WILLING DEAL WITH THOSE DRAWBACKS.

MOST MEN TODAY ARE NOT WILLING TO DEAL WITH THOSE DRAWBACKS BUT THEY WANT A WOMAN TO DO THOSE THINGS.

I HAVE NOTICED AN INCREASE IN GUYS WHO DON'T EVEN WANT THAT STUFF. THEY ARE FINE WITH 50/50 DOWN THE MIDDLE ON EVERYTHING. THEY JUST WANT A ROOMMATE THAT THEY CAN fukk BASICALLY. NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT EITHER.

AS LONG AS YOU UNDERSTAND THE PROS/CONS OF WHAT YOU WANT, GO BE HAPPY.

What do you mean by "drawbacks"?
 

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When she get tired of her being single, then she will tone it down and be more flexible with her expectations....

These fantasies never work out they way anyone thinks they will, for either the gold digger or the rich simp.
Whether she finds a cac she deems solvent enough to underwrite her desired lifestyle or a breh with the right amount of chemistry, confidence and mouthpiece to spin her, she will adjust.
 

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She said one thing that I agree with. Do what works for your relationship.

In theory you want a woman who can adapt and adjust. Which means be stay at home if need be or be able to work and help with bills if need be. This ain’t 1973 where a man can work for Chrysler for 25 years and call it a day.

Long as you know what you signed up for that’s really all that matters.
 

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IF YOU ARE THE BREAD WINNER IN THE HOUSEHOLD AND YOU DON'T ALLOW YOUR WIFE TO WORK, EXPECT TO BE TAKEN TO THE CLEANERS IF YOU DIVORCE.
Allow? These women don't want to work.
But you are correct. That is the always endgame.
To transfer the man's wealth to the woman. Either through divorce or death.
 

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I'm not mad at her wanting what she wants as long as she realizes it's going to hard to find and probably a pipe dream for most women. Real estate is through the roof now and if you live in a major metro area, expecting a man to qualify for a nice home in a decent area all while supporting a wife and kid with only his salary is unlikely. If you make 6 figures you're already in the top 10% of men. Narrow that down to black men and it's probably half that. Then subtract the men who are already married, gay men, and men who don't want to commit, and what are you left with?
 

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I'm not mad at her wanting what she wants as long as she realizes it's going to hard to find and probably a pipe dream for most women. Real estate is through the roof now and if you live in a major metro area, expecting a man to qualify for a nice home in a decent area all while supporting a wife and kid with only his salary is unlikely. If you make 6 figures you're already in the top 10% of men. Narrow that down to black men and it's probably half that. Then subtract the men who are already married, gay men, and men who don't want to commit, and what are you left with?

She said this almost verbatim elsewhere when she was explaining why she's open to swirling.
My gripe with this is that although Black men who are doing well for themselves aren't flooding the market, they're not rare either.
We have to stop acting like Black people with money are unicorns. It's a cop out.
Her professional (law, politics, and entertainment) and social circles give her direct access to those men of all ethnicities.
Now, her age may be a factor (she's in her early 40's I believe) because she chose to pursue these high value careers in her youth and probably did not have or make the space in her life to maintain a relationship that would lead to marriage.
 

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IF YOU ARE THE BREAD WINNER IN THE HOUSEHOLD AND YOU DON'T ALLOW YOUR WIFE TO WORK, EXPECT TO BE TAKEN TO THE CLEANERS IF YOU DIVORCE.

Exactly. I've started evaluating women the way they evaluate us. I look at woman's career and annually salary. I can't fuk with a woman making less than 40K for a LTR and specifically for this reason. If you cannot afford at least a blue collar middle class lifestyle by yourself then what would I have in common with you anyway?
 

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Protection is paramount? Damn are we rolling down to the Speedway at 1:00am every morning. Now I gotta work and be Seal Team 6?
 
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