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Ummmm yea, by literally 10 years :heh:

I will watch for a depression in 2024

The years preceding that crash were far better than things are now so I am not sure why you assume the same length of time? Especially since everywhere else besides America (which is in a huge bubble lol) is also in a steep downturn.
 

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The years preceding that crash were far better than things are now so I am not sure why you assume the same length of time? Especially since everywhere else besides America (which is in a huge bubble lol) is also in a steep downturn.
Like where

Greece and Spain are up YOY for fukk's sake. shyts tenuous but we are hardly at an event horizon
 

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White House: Russia Is Now Between A 'Rock And Hard Place'

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Thomson ReutersRussian rouble banknotes are seen in this illustration picture taken in Moscow

Russia's rouble crisis has put Moscow's economic policy "between a rock and a hard place," but the impact on the United States should be limited, President Barack Obama's top economist told reporters on Tuesday.

The rouble has plunged more than 50 percent this year versus the U.S. dollar, thanks in part to slumping oil prices and Western economic sanctions, dropping more than 11 percent on Tuesday.

"If I was chairman of President Putin's council of economic advisers, I would be extremely concerned," said Jason Furman, the chairman of Obama's Council of Economic advisers.

"They are between a rock and a hard place in economic policy," Furman said, noting the country has raised interest rates to defend its currency, hurting the domestic economy and confidence.

"It's a serious economic situation that is largely of their own making and largely reflects the consequences of not following a set of international rules," Furman said.

He said the United States has limited exposure to the Russian ruble crisis, with exports to Russia accounting for only a tenth of one percent of the U.S. gross domestic product.

But other economic slowdowns around the world do present a challenge to the United States, Furman said, citing weakness in Europe and Japan, and slower growth in China.



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But other economic slowdowns around the world do present a challenge to the United States, Furman said, citing weakness in Europe and Japan, and slower growth in China.

cut off your nose to spite your face, brehs.
 

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i'm an idiot...explain how to make money on this spread.

Do you bet on the fact that there WILL be a spread?
First, what do you mean by spread ? My definition (trading wise) is the difference between ask and bid prices. I'm not sure what you are meaning by that...

I'm not really knowledgeable but it's all about evaluating the risk/reward and having the gutts to enter early in the bargain. My opinion is that guys making proper money on USD/RUB didn't buy in this week. They did last month at least or way earlier this year because USD has been strong for months now against every major currency (GBP, EUR, JPY etc. even against CNH if we take the whole 2014 year) though lately it may be losing steam. Anyway, going long with USD had already a good risk/reward ratio. That's one thing. The second one is that Russia's economy is not that strong (they don't produce much and they really depend on their ressources exportations).

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Considering that and 1. the Crimea war earned Putin some sanctions an even heavier ones after the Malaysian plane got shot down and 2. Poutine's me against the world steez, investors are pretty reluctant to bring fresh money in.
Only oil/gas prices were saving Putin against that even with a falling Ruble because oil prices are in USD but they fell hard lately too. So if you take all that into account, people who went long with USD and chose to go against a weakening Ruble just anticipated the market pretty well and kinda lucked out with oil/gas prices falling the last few weeks IMO. Because of that prices went parabolic and that never lasts long. There were hints obviously that it could have been that way but nobody knew for sure.
 
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