*files paperwork for Venezuela*

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Accurate short version: The gov't mismanaged oil refineries and got a larger shock because of it than they should have.



So basically, getting the majority of the poor to be literate, educated, and not in poverty is ill-advised policy.
Both versions show state ownership screwing over the people. :yeshrug: Its whatever.

The goal isn't in question, its the means they chose. They have put many people in a situation worse than before. The road's surely paved with good intentions and all...
 

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Both versions show state ownership screwing over the people. :yeshrug: Its whatever.

The goal isn't in question, its the means they chose. They have put many people in a situation worse than before. The road's surely paved with good intentions and all...

Bad mgmt and screwing over aren't the same thing. :comeon:

Bad timing and bad mgmt. Foreign intervention doesn't help either.
 

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Bad mgmt and screwing over aren't the same thing. :comeon:

Bad timing and bad mgmt. Foreign intervention doesn't help either.
In practice it is... people starve.
Government is more susceptible to all the things you listed and more which is why its ill-advised that the state engage in this silliness... but good intentions and emotions are difficult to combat.:manny:
Libertarians are always going on about how inefficient, corrupt and bad at managing anything the state is, so this whole situation just re-enforces that.
Even the excuses and deflections are a salad of 'the state fukked up'/'the state was incompetent'/'other states interfered'.
 

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Stop arguing guys, the paper work has been filed and can't be rescinded.
 

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Accurate short version: The gov't mismanaged oil refineries and got a larger shock because of it than they should have.



So basically, getting the majority of the poor to be literate, educated, and not in poverty is ill-advised policy.


the metrics have been going down since Chavez died and that was sometime ago...
 
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