Discussion in 'Higher Learning' started by Mephistopheles, Nov 11, 2012.
Is this the end for the filibuster?
What caught my eye is the No Labels nod. My boy has been down with that since college, I see that they're getting some clout now.
finally. maybe now congress can get something done.
There were fewer fillibusters and obstruction during the Civil War and civil right's era. Let that sink in
People don't even understand the way the filibuster has been used in the past 4 years, and how it amounts to a radical change in the fundamentals of how government has operated. That has to be taken into account in any objective assessment of Obama's first term. The American Jobs Act would've passed and unemployment would be substantially lower now if the government operated as it usually did pre-2009, to name a glaring example. These Repub s have been filibustering stuff like judicial nominees, treasury staff, and ambassador appointments on sight for no other reason than to be a$$holes and do anything to sabotage the administration in any way possible. They filibustered tax cuts for small businesses and a jobs bill for returning veterans.
It was pretty sad to hear a few very vocal posters who supposedly keep up with politics not even knowing how the filibuster process works and how it's been used during the Obama presidency on a couple of our HL podcasts. The general public is even more clueless about it.
The thing about it though, is that it will be harder to change the process than most think. You still want to protect the minority. I'm going to read the No Labels proposal in depth later this week. I'm curious as to how they want to go about it.
The only thing that needs to be reformed with the filibuster is how it is used. Right now you can just say you are filibustering and then you can go home as log as neither side has 60 votes. They need to take it back to the old ways where in order for a filibuster to occur the party who calls for it has to stay onsight and speak continuously or lose the floor and see their filibuster be defeated.
Strom Thurmond's old racist ass stood on the Senate floor for 24 straight hours trying to stop the Civil Rights Act before he had to fall back.
Do you think John Boener is going to risk having to skip a tanning appointment to fillibuster a bill the Dems are trying to push? Far less obstruction would go on I guarantee it.
Harry Reid: Filibuster Changes Will Take Place In January
I heard an interview with harry and he pretty much said they were gonna roll with this in January
Nuclear option - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I say do it. For better or worse this current fiasco has got to stop.
so no one sees the value of having the filibuster in 2017?
No. Without then you have more progressive legislation and you never get 2017.
is that a fact