Fire Aaron Boone. Fire Brian Cashman.
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Hal runs the team like a bottom line business , Hank before he died had a more george like attitude but they pushed him out , not saying george is always right, if he wasnt suspended they wouldnt have built the 90s teams and the tampa faction was also dumb as fukk in their moves but still at least there was an urgency to win that is gone since Hal been in charge
i dont even think Girardi shouldve been canned, if he had lost to the Indians yeah cause he blew game 2 but they won that series and then came within a game of the WS when they werent expected to and then he was fired. it made no sense
WhatsGoodTy
Ya feel me
Aren’t they home run or bust?
AnonymityX1000
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I agree, Girardi pushed the right buttons with this group. People acted like he was being mean to Gary Sanchez when he was trying to coach him up from his short comings. As soon as he left Sanchez' defense fell off a cliff to costing the Yanks games. He was never good defensively but Girardi kept him to a standard.
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NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
Girardi should have been canned. fukk all that shyt. Binder Joe has no intuitive feel for the game. Stop the madness.
Either way, Im done with Boone and Cash. No matter how well the Yankees were doing, I always felt wins with Boone are “in spite of” victories. And Cashman….when was the last time the Yankees developed a stud pitcher out our system? When he doesnt have money to hide behind, hes worthless.
Either way, Im done with Boone and Cash. No matter how well the Yankees were doing, I always felt wins with Boone are “in spite of” victories. And Cashman….when was the last time the Yankees developed a stud pitcher out our system? When he doesnt have money to hide behind, hes worthless.
Currently 27 games over .500
Yankees fans: FIRE EVERYONE.
Even before this season I was fine with getting rid of Cashman. I think a refresh from the top down is a good thing.
But yall are upset over 2 months of baseball.
Here's the reality of the situation...
Even before this season I stated that the Yankees were constructed a bit too much in a boom/bust scenario. This is why I was thrilled to see such streaky hitters like Gary Sanchez get traded. Because I feel that in the postseason, I'd prefer a bit less ceiling and more consistency. And the Yankees have been constructed too much for ceiling and not enough for making contact, and making pitchers work.
What I think we've seen in the 1st half of the season was the Yankees ceiling. They constructed the team to have a good amount of power and hard contact.
What we're seeing now is the ...let's call it regression of all that.
So which Yankees team is the real one? Obviously it's somewhere in the middle.
It hasn't worked out since the trade but I think Andrew Benintendi was exactly what the Yankees needed as a stabilizing force in the lineup. He's not a power threat. But he makes contact and at the time of the trade he was hitting .320/.387/.398 for the Royals. A perfect player who would get on base for the sluggers behind him. Unfortunately he's struggled in the 20 games since arriving in the Bronx.
It also hasn't helped that Giancarlo Stanton went on the DL, which if nothing else takes away a power threat and even an on-base threat since teams have to be careful how they pitch to him. Stanton has a bad .309 OBP this year but relative to his .228 BA, it suggests teams still don't like to pitch to him. That was putting some degree of concern into opposing pitchers which helped the Yankees lineup as a whole.
So what's the solution? I'm not sure there is one other than to ride out this slump and hope the numbers skew back in their favor.
Here is what I wrote before the season about the Yankees:
So I'll just touch on this briefly:
Gallo was a letdown and he was traded. Disappointing but not unexpected.
Donaldson has been a disappointment in the sense that I thought even with his low batting average, he'd make up value by getting on base. Donaldson had a .353 WOBA last year for the Twins and that was what analysts were projecting for 2022. Some had him as high as a .360 projected WOBA given the lineup but Donaldson has only put up .307 as his walk rate is down and his K rate is way up to 28% now. Is there hope that Donaldson can turn things around in September and October? No. I don't think so. His expected WOBA is about the same as his actual WOBA. He's making much softer contact this season (down by 4mph), and even his launch angle is down, which might suggest he's getting jammed or having trouble recognizing pitches to get out in front of the ball more.
As far as Gleyber, the power numbers have improved and he could very well get to 25 HR this year. The downside is that his patience has evaporated. 26 walks in 107 games is pathetic. Plain and simple. There's a reason the Yankees called up Oswaldo Cabrera and while Gleyber's job isn't on the line yet, it has to be obvious the Yankees don't see a long term commitment here. Certainly not with Volpe coming in a year or two.
I won't get into the pitching too much other than to say -- yeah, the Yankees bullpen was absolutely on fire to start the season and the Yankees are blessed to have had them. They're going to really need them even more come October, because this lineup might not put many runs on the board against elite pitching. Not that they aren't CAPABLE. But that they're volatile.
With the trading deadline having passed, there's not a lot the Yankees can do now.
Cashman has made his bed. Time to sleep in it.
Yankees fans: FIRE EVERYONE.
Even before this season I was fine with getting rid of Cashman. I think a refresh from the top down is a good thing.
But yall are upset over 2 months of baseball.
Here's the reality of the situation...
Even before this season I stated that the Yankees were constructed a bit too much in a boom/bust scenario. This is why I was thrilled to see such streaky hitters like Gary Sanchez get traded. Because I feel that in the postseason, I'd prefer a bit less ceiling and more consistency. And the Yankees have been constructed too much for ceiling and not enough for making contact, and making pitchers work.
What I think we've seen in the 1st half of the season was the Yankees ceiling. They constructed the team to have a good amount of power and hard contact.
What we're seeing now is the ...let's call it regression of all that.
So which Yankees team is the real one? Obviously it's somewhere in the middle.
It hasn't worked out since the trade but I think Andrew Benintendi was exactly what the Yankees needed as a stabilizing force in the lineup. He's not a power threat. But he makes contact and at the time of the trade he was hitting .320/.387/.398 for the Royals. A perfect player who would get on base for the sluggers behind him. Unfortunately he's struggled in the 20 games since arriving in the Bronx.
It also hasn't helped that Giancarlo Stanton went on the DL, which if nothing else takes away a power threat and even an on-base threat since teams have to be careful how they pitch to him. Stanton has a bad .309 OBP this year but relative to his .228 BA, it suggests teams still don't like to pitch to him. That was putting some degree of concern into opposing pitchers which helped the Yankees lineup as a whole.
So what's the solution? I'm not sure there is one other than to ride out this slump and hope the numbers skew back in their favor.
Here is what I wrote before the season about the Yankees:
I think the Yankees will do well.
But I think the margin for error is really small.
From a value perspective they're not that great. I don't think Stanton will perform to his contract. And a lot kind of hinges on how healthy Josh Donaldson will be - in m opinion. If he's in the lineup for 130 games, the team should be really good. If he misses more time it could be a struggle.
Joey Gallo is...well he's obviously boom or bust. He's going to be frustrating in the same way that Gary Sanchez was. He's going to OPS 1.000 one month and probably OPS .700 for 6 weeks after that. Players like Sanchez and Gallo could put up nice season numbers overall but often they let you down in a short series because of how streaky they play. Sometimes you'd rather sacrifice the raw power for a bit more consistency in making contact. And really I think that's one of the weaknesses of this roster....the Yankees don't have enough guys you can rely on to put the bat on the ball and manufacture runs when you need it.
Gleyber is really the X-factor here. He doesn't quite project to be an All-Star this year but coming into his 5th year, maybe he makes a bit of a leap. If he can find that power stroke from 2019, he can dramatically improve the lineup. I would love to see 25-30 HR. That's probably all it would take. Maybe the Yankees could schedule extra games vs the Orioles, lol.
As far as the rotation, it's Gerrit Cole and that's it. Obviously Severino has the same ceiling but it just depends on how many innings he's going to give you. If the Yankees get into the postseason, I think Cole/Sevy is as good a 1-2 punch as any in the league. But if Sevy goes down, there's a pretty big drop off to Montgomery in my opinion. Can someone on the Yankees please tell Montgomery to stop throwing a sinker? It's not a good pitch for him. I get that he needs something to go with his fastball and changeup. But his sinker is pretty much a meatball. I guess all things considered, Montgomery is a fine #3 (I know he's listed as #2 but let's be honest, in terms of talent he's not that guy).
The Yankees are going to be relying on their bullpen to win a lot of games. And by the way, maybe this is why the Yankees declined to spend up this offseason.
Next winter, a couple of good pitchers could be on the market: Chris Sale, Jacob deGrom, Noah Syndergaard, Carlos Rodon, Mike Clevinger, Sean Manaea, Joe Musgrove...
No one who is really a 20-something who is a superstar, and some would be on Player Option, but certainly guys who could solidify their rotation better than what they have right now.
So I'll just touch on this briefly:
Gallo was a letdown and he was traded. Disappointing but not unexpected.
Donaldson has been a disappointment in the sense that I thought even with his low batting average, he'd make up value by getting on base. Donaldson had a .353 WOBA last year for the Twins and that was what analysts were projecting for 2022. Some had him as high as a .360 projected WOBA given the lineup but Donaldson has only put up .307 as his walk rate is down and his K rate is way up to 28% now. Is there hope that Donaldson can turn things around in September and October? No. I don't think so. His expected WOBA is about the same as his actual WOBA. He's making much softer contact this season (down by 4mph), and even his launch angle is down, which might suggest he's getting jammed or having trouble recognizing pitches to get out in front of the ball more.
As far as Gleyber, the power numbers have improved and he could very well get to 25 HR this year. The downside is that his patience has evaporated. 26 walks in 107 games is pathetic. Plain and simple. There's a reason the Yankees called up Oswaldo Cabrera and while Gleyber's job isn't on the line yet, it has to be obvious the Yankees don't see a long term commitment here. Certainly not with Volpe coming in a year or two.
I won't get into the pitching too much other than to say -- yeah, the Yankees bullpen was absolutely on fire to start the season and the Yankees are blessed to have had them. They're going to really need them even more come October, because this lineup might not put many runs on the board against elite pitching. Not that they aren't CAPABLE. But that they're volatile.
With the trading deadline having passed, there's not a lot the Yankees can do now.
Cashman has made his bed. Time to sleep in it.
How are you the Yankees Gm and go 12 years without a WS appearance 
When they were 40 games above 500 my brother dead ass said the Yankees were trash I had no idea what he was talking about cause he never explained but lord was he right 
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When they were 40 games above 500 my brother dead ass said the Yankees were trash I had no idea what he was talking about cause he never explained but lord was he right
Breh they should be 50 games over .500 and thinking about what the World Series roster is looking like instead of hoping they can maybe manufacture runs magically.
For their sake this august shyt better just be a fluke and they rebound next month. Every legit team retooled at the trade deadline and the Padres proved they are willing to spend the big bucks. It’s not a game anymore. You win now and KEEP winning.
Yankees fans have a right to be in panic mode and call for Boone and Cashman to get canned.
Fire them by Monday.
g-ice
aka #DiamondNightmare
Stop losing sleep over them. It ain’t worth it. 
ExodusNirvana
Change is inevitable...
When they were 40 games above 500 my brother dead ass said the Yankees were trash I had no idea what he was talking about cause he never explained but lord was he right