Fire and Fury: Inside the Trump White House

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The immigration EO explanation shows that Bannon was actually methodical, and pretty effective (in comparison to the dumpster fire he left behind). He wanted chaos

Better to have him outside and neutralized than inside where he can influence policy directly

i remember when bannon got canned and all the alt-right/trumpset dudes were talking like that was just another 17d inter-dimensional, dr. manhattan level chess move. :mjlol:

on some "oh no worries, bannon can do more damage OUTSIDE the white house than inside it!" type of shyt.

the mental gymnastics, man. the fact the people try to twist shyt so hard no matter what, doesn't necessarily surprise me anymore, but it definitely can still astound me. sometimes the stuff they come up with to rationalize things to their base is pretty :blessed: since they know their audience.

EXACTLY what they want to hear. and then there's the feedback loop... :noah: that's all the info they'll ever need....or seek....or trust.
 

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Scaramucci is so much more of a lackey and flunky than I ever realized, according to this....

“It was the president who, meeting with Scaramucci, was won over by the Mooch’s cringeworthy Wall Street hortatory flattery. (“I can only hope to realize a small part of your genius as a communicator, but you are my example and model” was one report of the gist of the Scaramucci supplication.) ”

He hung around Trump Tower for months trying to get a job, any job.
 

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Scaramucci is so much more of a lackey and flunky than I ever realized, according to this....

“It was the president who, meeting with Scaramucci, was won over by the Mooch’s cringeworthy Wall Street hortatory flattery. (“I can only hope to realize a small part of your genius as a communicator, but you are my example and model” was one report of the gist of the Scaramucci supplication.) ”

He hung around Trump Tower for months trying to get a job, any job.
I think he understands corruption very well.

Trump seems to have no understanding of what's going on nor a desire to. If you get in you are fukking in.
 

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“You realize where this is going,” Bannon continued. “This is all about money laundering. Mueller chose Weissmann first and he is a money laundering guy. Their path to fukking Trump goes right through Paul Manafort, Don Jr., and Jared Kushner . . . It’s as plain as a hair on your face. . . . It goes through all the Kushner shyt. They’re going to roll those two guys up and say play me or trade me. But . . . ‘executive privilege!’ ” Bannon mimicked. ”
 

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Right, for Scaramuscci it was all about the business tax exempt status, and the chance to be in the orbit of political power to use as private sector capital later on.

The book is right on point for almost everything, all of us have followed, it is almost surreal. Bannon, for all his bluster, and bullshyt, was a lot smarter than all these people, and I think the truth about the Russia thing is essentially as he has described it throughout, and not for points, but very much how I envisioned it. Not direct, not sophisticated, hardly even intentional.
 

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And, you know what's sad and telling, in a way, about the country, and maybe praiseful of some of us in here, I can really only have the most in depth conversations in HERE, about this book, because we all know how much of this is 100% facts, because we followed every day, every story, every leak, every article, every Politco piece or Times story, so we know. Most people, they remember a headline, or the Mooch, or Bannon getting fired, very few see the whole scope of the disaster, day by day, piece by piece.
 

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And, you know what's sad and telling, in a way, about the country, and maybe praiseful of some of us in here, I can really only have the most in depth conversations in HERE, about this book, because we all know how much of this is 100% facts, because we followed every day, every story, every leak, every article, every Politco piece or Times story, so we know. Most people, they remember a headline, or the Mooch, or Bannon getting fired, very few see the whole scope of the disaster, day by day, piece by piece.


Yea my biggest take away so far is how on point the good posters of HL have been throughout this whole ordeal. Really had our collective finger on the pulse of this, in particular the Bannon/Alt-Reich threat like you mentioned.

Listening to this (I got audiobook version) has felt more like reminiscing something I lived through than revealing deep secrets I had been un-privy to:ehh:
 
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