Fire Pagano: 2015 Colts Offseason Thread

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@The Taxman was right. Dude is a trash coach but he probably has a lifetime pass because he had cancer, the Colts make the playoffs yearly and overachieved tand got to the AFCCG. He really needs to be fired but luckily for him he's about another 2-3 years before the expectations are bigger than what he's capable of.

Colt's lost because they got murdered on both sides of the line and because Belichick coaches circles around Pagano and will exploit it all day. Oline managed to hold off Ware/Von Miller last week but let NE's pass rush burst through the line everytime? Sohh sick and tired of Pagano out here looking like AFC Mike Smith.

Luck ain't good enough to carry this team to the SB if that make's him a choker, I disagree but :yeshrug:

What Colts gotta do:
Fire Pagano. They won't.
Fire Manusky. They might.
Not let Grigson mess up in FA again. They won't.
Not blow first rounders on dudes like Trent Richardson and Bjoern Werner who both went from starting to healthy scratches. :snoop:

Do something about the fact that this team hasn't been able to consistently stop the run since I was a child or worse.
Need to work on the right side of the o-line.
They need to draft a RB and pick up a cheap FA or two. Herron should be #2 at best going into next year, but they can't afford to drop a 1st or 2nd on an RB.

Toss: Vinatieri, Toler, LaRon Landry, Josh McRapey, Cribbs and a few dudes I'm forgetting ASAP.

Coming into this year I wasn't expecting a SB or an AFC CG but now the window is open. Going forward these guys don't got excuses. Start performing better or someone gotta lose their job. I hope Irsay gets to pill popping and fires them all tonight.
 

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@The Taxman was right. Dude is a trash coach but he probably has a lifetime pass because he had cancer, the Colts make the playoffs yearly and overachieved tand got to the AFCCG. He really needs to be fired but luckily for him he's about another 2-3 years before the expectations are bigger than what he's capable of.

Colt's lost because they got murdered on both sides of the line and because Belichick coaches circles around Pagano and will exploit it all day. Oline managed to hold off Ware/Von Miller last week but let NE's pass rush burst through the line everytime? Sohh sick and tired of Pagano out here looking like AFC Mike Smith.

Luck ain't good enough to carry this team to the SB if that make's him a choker, I disagree but :yeshrug:

What Colts gotta do:
Fire Pagano. They won't.
Fire Manusky. They might.
Not let Grigson mess up in FA again. They won't.
Not blow first rounders on dudes like Trent Richardson and Bjoern Werner who both went from starting to healthy scratches. :snoop:

Do something about the fact that this team hasn't been able to consistently stop the run since I was a child or worse.
Need to work on the right side of the o-line.
They need to draft a RB and pick up a cheap FA or two. Herron should be #2 at best going into next year, but they can't afford to drop a 1st or 2nd on an RB.

Toss: Vinatieri, Toler, LaRon Landry, Josh McRapey, Cribbs and a few dudes I'm forgetting ASAP.

Coming into this year I wasn't expecting a SB or an AFC CG but now the window is open. Going forward these guys don't got excuses. Start performing better or someone gotta lose their job. I hope Irsay gets to pill popping and fires them all tonight.
It would be useless to fire Manusky and keep Pagano. Its Pagano's defense. If Irsay thinks a Pagano team will ever compete w/ Belly, he's a fool. This is a joke. And I think Pep Hamilton gets too much credit too. I hate this offense. It worked vs bums, but its way yoo inconsistent. Tom Brady hasnt had to throw past 15 yrds for the most part. All quick stuff, we cant even do that. Sh1t is pathetic. Luck needs some coaches w/ experience and imagination.

Damn shame Houston doesn't have a qb. Winning the division is way too easy.

I agree w/ the cits, bit Id add Walden and Ricky Jean Francois to that. And Id trade Werner for something.
 

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It would be useless to fire Manusky and keep Pagano. Its Pagano's defense. If Irsay thinks a Pagano team will ever compete w/ Belly, he's a fool. This is a joke. And I think Pep Hamilton gets too much credit too. I hate this offense. It worked vs bums, but its way yoo inconsistent. Tom Brady hasnt had to throw past 15 yrds for the most part. All quick stuff, we cant even do that. Sh1t is pathetic. Luck needs some coaches w/ experience and imagination.

Damn shame Houston doesn't have a qb. Winning the division is way too easy.

I agree w/ the cits, bit Id add Walden and Ricky Jean Francois to that. And Id trade Werner for something.

Thinking about Werner is so depressing.
Colts can't draft at all.

Colts last 10 first round picks:
Last year: no pick we traded for Trent Richardson who was a healthy scratch.
2013: Werner. Was a heathy scratch today.
2012: Luck. Made an easy choice.
2011: Castonzo. Decent-Good.
2010: Jerry Hughes. traded.
2009: Donald Brown. no longer on team.
2008: Traded the pick a year earlier for Tony Ugoh: no longer on the team.
2007: Anthony Gonzales.
2006: Joseph Addai.
2005: Marlin Jackson

:mindblown:




He's not a good coach, but just by getting to the AFC title game he's pretty much guaranteed himself like 2 extra seasons no matter what

Sad story but 100% true.
 

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Bill Polian did a lot of damage to this team that's still being cleaned up..

The Colts had no chance to win today...

Not against a veteran team like NE with a hungry :beli:

Just gotta keep building on both sides of the ball
 

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Thinking about Werner is so depressing.
Colts can't draft at all.

Colts last 10 first round picks:
Last year: no pick we traded for Trent Richardson who was a healthy scratch.
2013: Werner. Was a heathy scratch today.
2012: Luck. Made an easy choice.
2011: Castonzo. Decent-Good.
2010: Jerry Hughes. traded.
2009: Donald Brown. no longer on team.
2008: Traded the pick a year earlier for Tony Ugoh: no longer on the team.
2007: Anthony Gonzales.
2006: Joseph Addai.
2005: Marlin Jackson

:mindblown:






Sad story but 100% true.
Actually I take back what I said about Manusky and Pagano. Irsay needs to do what Jerry Jones did to Garrett. Just make him a figure head since he doesn't have the guts to fire a cancer patient. Hire Wade Phillips or Fangio. I really wish Pep Hamilton got another job, I just don't like his game planning and feel that he doesn't stand up to Pagano as far as personnel is concerned.

Id really like to get a rb in the draft. Gordon or Gurley or Abdullah will be available late 1st rnd.

Luck needs to take a discount of he wants to win. 25mil a yr will kill this team. They have so many holes.
 

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Actually I take back what I said about Manusky and Pagano. Irsay needs to do what Jerry Jones did to Garrett. Just make him a figure head since he doesn't have the guts to fire a cancer patient. Hire Wade Phillips or Fangio. I really wish Pep Hamilton got another job, I just don't like his game planning and feel that he doesn't stand up to Pagano as far as personnel is concerned.

Id really like to get a rb in the draft. Gordon or Gurley or Abdullah will be available late 1st rnd.

Luck needs to take a discount of he wants to win. 25mil a yr will kill this team. They have so many holes.

When those dudes pranked the Bills and Bucs GM and tapped their phone call one Mark Dominik said:
"Dominik recalls telling Colts GM Ryan Grigson, "Look, you got the best gig in the National Football League. I mean, you got a quarterback the first pick, you're a genius for 10 years now.""

This shyt is too true for Grigson/Manusky/Pagano/Pep. They're going to pay Luck everything, keep trying to rebuild the 2007 Colts and pray Luck bails them out.

Luck had his faults today too but god damn, why Indy gotta get raped across both lines of scrimmage every year?
 

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why isn't he a good coach?

His mantra when he came to Indy was to be able to run and stop the run. Indy cannot do either one.
He's supposed to be a defensive minded coach but Indy has been just as soft as ever on defence since he arrived. He's had no meaningful positive impact on that side of the ball.
Indy has the tendency to routinely come out flat, and is a super inconsistent team. Colts are guaranteed 2-3 blowouts a year because of this.
He regularly gets outcoached and he is not a coach you can rely on to make any significant in game adjustments consistently.
The team saw no drop off when he missed the majority of the season a couple years ago.
Too many headscratching in game decisions, I don't have confidence in him to put together a solid gameplan against good teams on a regular basis.
 

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When those dudes pranked the Bills and Bucs GM and tapped their phone call one Mark Dominik said:
"Dominik recalls telling Colts GM Ryan Grigson, "Look, you got the best gig in the National Football League. I mean, you got a quarterback the first pick, you're a genius for 10 years now.""

This shyt is too true for Grigson/Manusky/Pagano/Pep. They're going to pay Luck everything, keep trying to rebuild the 2007 Colts and pray Luck bails them out.

Luck had his faults today too but god damn, why Indy gotta get raped across both lines of scrimmage every year?


Id literally trade or cut every member of the defense Except Vonte and Arthur Jones if I could. I like Freeman and Newsomes potential. I was mocked on the colts forum a couple yrs ago for wanting Manti Teo over Werner. The ILBers on this team is trash.

Cory Redding needs to go too. Outside of 2012, Grigon's drafts have been sh1t. Tho I do like Mewhort and think Khaled Holmes has potential. So many holes.

I dont even like our practice habits. NE practices outside the majority of the time even though they have an indoor facility. Pagano seems to rarely practice outside in winter. I'd tear that indoor facility down if I was Irsay. Or at least demand more outdoor practices. Team is soft cuz of that damn dome.
 
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