First Human Head Transplant Recipient Poised To Be Russian Man, Valery Spiridonov

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never gonna happen
he'll die in surgery or shortly after
it simply won't work
we are not advanced enough in the art of surgery, neuromicroanatomy and immunology
and besides that is the most inelegant way to solve that man's problem given where scitech is taking us
that doctor is basically experimenting with shoeing a horse (and badly at that) while people are on the verge of inventing a car
 

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That dude is gonna die on the table. Not only that but his brain is gonna be severely damaged from lack of oxygen. Unless this guy can sew this guy back together in 5min, I don't see this working.
he can be placed on a lung heart bypass machine, but this is the least of the surgical concerns
 

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This guy is a joke, it's a PR stunt. The evidence he's using is from animal models 30 years ago

My bet is no US institution accepts him when he presents at the conference later this year

He'll end up doing it in China or some shythole Eastern bloc country, will probably kill the guy
bingo
 

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I could only stomach half of this video
this guy is all fluff
the complexity of spinal re-anastamosis is way beyond any of the flour he is throwing in the air
someone who watched the whole please tell me this
have they used "gemini" on a primate where they completely sever and reconnect the native cord with success?
if they haven't done that yet then fukk this guy
 

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he can be placed on a lung heart bypass machine, but this is the least of the surgical concerns
How will his brain be oxygenated on the machine tho? Bypass works on hearts because the rest of the body is able to be oxygenated while the heart is kept on ice to keep it from dying. His brain can't be put on ice because 1) its still in his head, 2) brain cells have a faster decaying rate than heart cells, so an already complex surgery will have to be done at an unrealistic pace
 

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The head transplant will be successful and this thread will be revisited
 

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How will his brain be oxygenated on the machine tho? Bypass works on hearts because the rest of the body is able to be oxygenated while the heart is kept on ice to keep it from dying. His brain can't be put on ice because 1) its still in his head, 2) brain cells have a faster decaying rate than heart cells, so an already complex surgery will have to be done at an unrealistic pace
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fam conceptually think about it. If you cut someone's head off, you will only have about 5min to put it onto another body before the brain starts to decay. If you try to put it on ice, you will buy some more minutes. The reason the brain decays is from lack of oxygen/nutrients. How are you going to hook the patients head to the bigass ECMO machine while your connecting it to the donor body? (you will barely get a good visual with all of the wires in the way) Not only that but the blood circulation in the brain isnt a perfect circle like it is in the body. How will you oxygenate all of the brain using ECMO? I hope you see my point
 

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fam conceptually think about it. If you cut someone's head off, you will only have about 5min to put it onto another body before the brain starts to decay. If you try to put it on ice, you will buy some more minutes. The reason the brain decays is from lack of oxygen/nutrients. How are you going to hook the patients head to the bigass ECMO machine while your connecting it to the donor body? (you will barely get a good visual with all of the wires in the way) Not only that but the blood circulation in the brain isnt a perfect circle like it is in the body. How will you oxygenate all of the brain using ECMO? I hope you see my point
no bud
a brain with healthy vascularity can be sequentially bypassed vessell by vessel, for example you can feed the entire brain through the right anterior (carotid) and posterior (vertebrals) circulation before connecting the left side (the main vascular highway for this is the circle of willis). The areas of concerns, whenever one expects decreased perfusion to the brain, are what they call watershed areas, which are essentially fed by osmosis and do not have overlapping or particular anastomotic vessels.

the other option you have to keep in mind is that much of the surgery can be done and vascular changeover be left for the last step
 
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