“FL Studio’s duty is to get more people to stick with music-making”: CEO Constantin Koehncke on FL Studio 2025 and beyond

[spliz]

Nah, I just need you to stop following me to every thread I'm in. It's weird AF.

I don’t even know who you are, bro. I can't give you the attention you're thirsty for.

nikka I don’t follow u to every thread at all wtf u talking about? I don’t even remember the last time I responded to a post of urs. U on drugs or some shyt? Nah u a cornball for real. U losing an argument or a disagreement now u tryna resort to this corny ass “oh u following me around” shyt. Smh.

 

[GrindtooFilthy]

Nah, it's not.

It's still the remedial DAW for beginners and wack bedroom producers. If you want to actually learn about production and/or mixing, it's best to stick to DAW's like Logic and Pro Tools. MPC and Ableton too. FL's workflow is all about making it easier, but without the user developing more skill and knowledge. That's not gonna work if you ever have to hit a real studio to work or have an artist that needs a lot of adjustments to the production.

Music production is in it's own world than mixing/mastering. I would say FL is the top dog especially for midi composition. As for sampling go use Ableton

 

[International S.]

FL11 until I drop

 

[FunkDoc1112]

Nah, it's not.

It's still the remedial DAW for beginners and wack bedroom producers. If you want to actually learn about production and/or mixing, it's best to stick to DAW's like Logic and Pro Tools. MPC and Ableton too. FL's workflow is all about making it easier, but without the user developing more skill and knowledge. That's not gonna work if you ever have to hit a real studio to work or have an artist that needs a lot of adjustments to the production.

Not true at all, man

 

[FunkDoc1112]

U literally have no idea what ur talking about and I say this with utmost seriousness. U sound like a nikka who never made beats before. I can show u production from FL Studio that u would NEVER guess. All of these DAWs have their strengths and weaknesses. For instance Pro Tools is industry standard for recording but Cubase been better than that shyt for years.

Every beat I made until 4 months ago was in FL Studio and mad people have guessed that I was using an MPC3000 or SP1200 before

Every DAW is what you make of it

 

[FunkDoc1112]

I explained it.

I don’t want it to be easy for me. I actually love the process of learning. So when I've f*cked with FL, I didn't like it. For the same reasons other people mentioned on here. I also see a lot of people who use it, not knowing a lot about production, when they come into the studio. That makes everybody else's job harder.

But it's not just about making beats. We started this talk on mixing, recording, etc. The learning aspect is what I'm speaking about though. So I'll ask another producer what equipment and techniques he used to make certain classic songs, and we'll speak about the process. That's the fun part for me. If I don’t have that piece of equipment, I might cop it, just to learn how to use that sh*t. I'm doing it now with the SP because someone told me I should cop another one and master it. So I picked up a used one a couple years ago from Armen's here in NYC. The fun part is the learning. I don’t want anything to come easily with music. Only the checks, lol. The creative process for me, is the learning. And I've been doing this since I was 15-16, but I don’t ever want to stop learning new sh*t.

There's nothing in FL Studio that prevents you from learning about the process. I was able to transition to an MPC seamlessly off the strength of everything I learned fukking with FL for years



First beat - made entirely on FL. Second beat, made on the MPC. Mixed in FL.

 

[Awesome Wells]

Music production is in it's own world than mixing/mastering. I would say FL is the top dog especially for midi composition. As for sampling go use Ableton

For MIDI composition, I'm really into Logic for that. After that, I would probably say Cubase. Danja and Timbaland were going crazy about Cubase, and that's what kinda got me curious about it. It's really dope for MIDI composing. But I think Logic might be the best for that, especially when you throw in the whole MIDI Transform function and all that. That's been a game changer for me.

I know a dude that's f*cking with Bitwig as his main DAW, lol. But he's just making sh*t for himself, so he refuses to use anything else.

 

[Awesome Wells]

There's nothing in FL Studio that prevents you from learning about the process. I was able to transition to an MPC seamlessly off the strength of everything I learned fukking with FL for years

The pain points I've mentioned have been the same ones that people have hated about FL forever. A lot of legends hate it. And speak out publicly on why they do. You see people saying the same sh*t in this thread and a million others on here, and everywhere. Doesn't mean that everyone hates it because of the workflow, but a lot of people do. It's just what it is.

There's mad people who hate Reason now, but of course there will be a couple of dudes who'll say they love the sh*t, lol. It's like that with anything software-related. The point is, all of these people who have an issue with FL are saying whatever they're saying for a reason. Not because they just hate the company. It just doesn't work for a lot of people who've tried it. Doesn't mean people who like it should stop using it.

 

[maxamusa]

Why do think it's a flex? I'm just literally telling you I've worked with both analog and digital.

I got an ASR 10 sitting in the corner of this room gathering dust and a 20-30 lb box of floppy disks full of sounds. I replaced it with an FL Key 61 midi controller. Best upgrade EVER! I ain't got to wait 1 minute for the OS to load and the other buttons actually do shyt in the box.

I think I misinterpreted what this thread was about. My bad bro.


Keep creating dawg

 

[TripleAgent]

There's a spot here in NYC, that has a good 10-15 used SP's.

They run around $7K now, but if you can, definitely cop one. As much as I love learning on it and trying to recreate sh*t I did on the MPC, it's very different and hard as a MF to do on the SP. But the feel and sound of the SP is really on some other sh*t. Going from the MPC to practicing on the SP is basically like you never made a beat in your life, but it's mad fun.

7? The new one is 4. That's crazy

 

[Awesome Wells]

7? The new one is 4. That's crazy

Yeah, he has the OG ones in there. The grey joints from back in the day.

He's a repair shop too. So he cleans them and makes sure they're all good before you cop. Dude basically has all the vintage gear from way back, but he buys too. So if you wanted to cop something, you can sell whatever, and use that as credit to get something else. I've been going there for years because you get a chance to actually see what you're getting in person before you spend. It's really dope.

 

[NormanConnors]

FL is better for production. Pro Tools is better for recording. It depends on ur aim.

100

 

[TripleAgent]

Yeah, he has the OG ones in there. The grey joints from back in the day.

He's a repair shop too. So he cleans them and makes sure they're all good before you cop. Dude basically has all the vintage gear from way back, but he buys too. So if you wanted to cop something, you can sell whatever, and use that as credit to get something else. I've been going there for years because you get a chance to actually see what you're getting in person before you spend. It's really dope.

He's gotta be hoping people have no idea about the reissues.

 

[Crumple]

FL Studio’s duty is to get more people to stick with music-making”: CEO Constantin Koehncke on FL Studio 2025 and beyond​

Koehncke is great for making this statement. It's a visionary statement. "More people sticking to making music" is a great thing for the world, no matter what.

 

[Crumple]

Yeah, Avid f*cked up with the monthly subscription thing for Pro Tools.

Back in the day, it was a one shot cost, so once you copped it, you didn't need to spend any more money. They want to keep getting money now, so they're making people spend monthly for something that they don’t even own. It's wack. But if you're recording at home and making your own beats in a DAW and want to have basically the same tools, I always say Logic Pro is really good for that.

A lot of studios and engineers are working in Logic too now, so if you wanted to send your work out for mixing and mastering, you could get a lot of work done and not have to worry about being charged monthly.

Yeah, the monthly subscription - even with Photoshop was a terrible idea for the consumer.

I get the makers get more cash, because piracy does affect many things.

But still not owning a daw or even Photoshop isn't a good feeling for me.

That's why I use older computers with older operating systems.

Windows 7 to me was peak other than not being able to new programs.

That OS was perfect. Everything that came after switched up the branding hard!