Flat Earthers.....HOLD THIS L!!!!!!!!!!

[Jack Trippa 3z company ho]

No. None of these were given to anyone else.....

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Why and how would NASA have some petrified wood on deck and hand it out to other countries, lying about what it is?

‘Moon rock’ in museum is just petrified wood

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Dude has not posted one source for his information.

That's because the people on Youtube from which he draws all his information don't supply it, either.

They prey on ignorance and gullibility.​

 

[xCivicx]

@xCivicx speaking of nuclear physicist...how can they have a job if the earth is flat

Figuring out the location of highly irradiated areas and keeping people away from them

 

[Hawaiian Punch]

Can somebody explain to me what the end goal is to having a flat earth? Like what reason is this “truth” being hidden from the masses. Like somehow this worldwide conspiracy gets exposed and the earth is indeed flat. It’s like “omg the governments and scientists of the entire world lied to us..........so y’all still going out to eat tonight?”

 

[xCivicx]

Post a credible link to the bolded..

All this stuff has been posted countless times in flat earth threads

 

[Jack Trippa 3z company ho]

False. Gravity is a force that can be quantified and mathematically expressed to make accurate predictions.​

Isaac Newton did back in 1687.​

The same amount of force is used on both the birds and the water.​

The bird doesn't defy gravity. It applies another force: lift. The force of the lift is more powerful than the force of gravity.....until the bird stops flapping it's wings to generate lift.​

So a bird’s “lift” is stronger than the force of billions of pounds of force required to keep the ocean down?

So gravity is “smart”, constantly adjusting trillions of times a day...tons of force to hold the water, but intricately lets up all that force only for the space of the bird flying over the water cuz “lift”

 

[Electric Ladyland]

fukkin magnets, how do they work?

 

[Piff Perkins]

All you gotta do is look at a lunar eclipse to see the earth is round lmao. Believing in flat earth bullshyt is a clear sign of stupidity and low intelligence.

 

[xCivicx]

How does the wall work? So if you flew directly over Antarctica or the north pole in a shuttle and saw it was in the center of the Earth it would debunk everything right?

Flying across Antarctica sea to sea would prove a globe earth imo

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Why and how would NASA have some petrified wood on deck and hand it out to other countries, lying about what it is?

Because NASA didn't hand it out.....

MOON HOAX: DEBUNKED!: 9.8 How come the Moon rock donated to Holland is fake?​

The reports stated that the alleged Moon rock had been donated on October 9, 1969 by J. W. Middendorf II, who was the US ambassador to the Netherlands at the time, to a former Dutch prime minister, Willem Drees, during the world tour of the Apollo 11 astronauts following their historic mission. When Drees died, in 1988, the item was reportedly put on display in the museum.

However, in 2006 Arno Wielders, a physicist and aerospace entrepreneur, saw it and warned the museum that it was highly unlikely that NASA had donated such a priceless Moon rock just three months after returning from the Moon and before any further samples were brought back by later Apollo flights. Moreover, the lunar samples donated to other countries were tiny fragments, whereas this “Moon rock” measured 55 by 20 millimeters (2.2 by 0.8 inches).

A phone call to NASA’s lunar rock sample management office confirmed these doubts: the curator stated that the item could not possibly be a Moon rock.

The investigation conducted in 2009 by Xandra Van Gelder, chief editor of the museum’s Oog magazine, confirmed that the exhibit was a fake. Van Gelder reported that NASA hadn’t authenticated the specific item but had merely stated that it was likely that the Netherlands had received a Moon rock, since the US had donated small samples to over 100 countries in the early 1970s.

Van Gelder also noted that the history of the item was suspicious. Real samples would be donated by the US government to the people of a country through a representative of the then-current government, not to a former prime minister who in 1969 had been out of office for eleven years. The US ambassador explained that he had received the exhibit from the US State Department, but he could not recall the details of the matter.

In addition to its inconsistent and implausible history, the fakery, if intended, wasn’t particularly subtle. The reddish color of the item was completely different from the usual color of lunar samples. Petrologist Wim van Westrenen, of the Amsterdam Free University, reported that he was immediately aware that something was wrong. Spectroscopic and microscopic inspection of a fragment taken from the item found quartz and cell-like structures typical of petrified wood.

Further anomalies become evident if the item is compared with a real sample donated to the Netherlands and stored at the Boerhaave museum.

The real Dutch sample is encapsulated in plastic and accompanied by a national flag and by plaques that clearly identify it as fragments of Moon rocks retrieved by Apollo 11 and “presented to the people of the Kingdom of the Netherlands by Richard Nixon, President of the United States of America”. Specifically, the plaque states that “this flag of your nation was carried to the Moon and back by Apollo 11, and this fragment of the Moon’s surface was brought to Earth by the crew of that first manned lunar landing.”

The alleged “Moon rock” is not encapsulated or mounted in any way and is simply accompanied by a gold-colored card. This card doesn’t even say it’s a lunar sample and spells center with an incongruous British spelling (centre) and hyphenates the name of the mission (“Apollo-11”).

Another questionable issue is the fact that such a rare and important item (there are only 382 kilograms (842 pounds) of Apollo moon rocks in the entire world) surfaced only during an “art exhibition” organized in 2006 by Rotterdam artists Liesbeth Bik and Jos van der Pol and not during a science-oriented event. The exhibition was rather tongue-in-cheek, since it asked visitors what they thought of the museum’s plans to open an exhibition center on the Moon.

However, it is true that on October 9, 1969 the Apollo 11 astronauts actually were in Amsterdam on an official visit.

For all these reasons, the “Moon rock” is now cataloged by the Rijksmuseum as item number NG-1991-4-25 and described as a “piece of black and red petrified wood” and classified unquestionably as “fake”. The words “Moon rock retrieved by the Apollo 11 crew” are described as merely the title of the artwork.

All this suggests an art exhibit that created a fictional backstory which was misinterpreted or deliberately presented as factual. This would explain the fact that the artists who found the “rock” in the storage section of the museum reported in 2007 that “in a drawer they saw a very small rock with a note with it. On that note it said that this stone came from the moon.” Yet the photographs of the note show that it doesn’t say that the stone is a lunar specimen.

Moreover, the book Museums: A Visual Anthropology by Mary Bouquet describes NG-1991-4-25 as follows on page 58:

Bikvanderpol’s Fly Me to the Moon was a meditation on the social life of a piece of moonrock donated to the national collection by former Dutch premier Willem Drees’s family after his death (Bikvanderpol 2006). Although NG-1991-4-25 was subsequently unmasked as a piece of fossilized wood, this only augments its heritage interest.

Bouquet’s book, on page 210, also references the item with the words “Bikvanderpol (2006), NG-1991-4-25 Fly Me to the Moon, New York: Sternberg”. This appears to be a reference to a book by the same name written by Liesbeth Bik and Jos van der Pol and available for purchase through Google Books and online stores with ISBN 1933128208.

The book, which I purchased in 2019, includes a few photographs of the “Moon rock”: two are shown in Figures 9.8-4 and 9.8-5. The text of the book seems to suggest that a misunderstanding is more likely than an intentional prank.

In any case, it is unquestionable that the item was not formally authenticated by NASA and that anyone arguing that this is evidence of faking the trips to the Moon would have to explain why the perpetrators of a conspiracy on which the worldwide standing of the US depended would be so dumb as to manufacture such a crude and easily detectable fake.

TL;DR version: It was a piece manufactured for an art exhibit with NO authentication by NASA.


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[xCivicx]

I just wish someone could tell me what's on the other side if all the land is on our side That would be one hell of an ocean or mountain range.

Your confusion is coming from you attempting to place a flat disc into the heliocentric "infinite space" fabrication of our reality which is something that has no basis in any kind of fact

Flat earth theory completely disproves heliocentric theory. That also means it disproves the "infinitely expanding nothingness" of "outer space"

So no, theres no "space" for someone to be able to "look under" the flat earth while traveling in

 

[Wildhundreds]

All this stuff has been posted countless times in flat earth threads

I like print better.. But thanks...

How We Lost The Ability To Travel To The Moon

And the answer given seems suspect, given the technical advances we've made since the last moon landing.. Seems as if it would be 100x easier now..

 

[xCivicx]

Can somebody explain to me what the end goal is to having a flat earth? Like what reason is this “truth” being hidden from the masses. Like somehow this worldwide conspiracy gets exposed and the earth is indeed flat. It’s like “omg the governments and scientists of the entire world lied to us..........so y’all still going out to eat tonight?”

To create a capitalist nihilist atheistic consumer driven reality where most people are in poverty and depressed

I wonder if it worked

 

[xCivicx]

I like print better.. But thanks...

How We Lost The Ability To Travel To The Moon

And the answer given seems suspect, given the technical advances we've made since the last moon landing.. Seems as if it would be 100x easier now..

I feel like my intelligence is being insulted when they ask me to believe stuff like this

 

[Kuro]

but you dont even need to calculate anything to see that the sun literally cannot be almost 100,000,0000 miles away yet create the angles that we see every day through the clouds

dude said you dont have to measure or calculate to know the distance between two points...he thinks the sunlight passing through random openings in clouds is all you need to figure out the size of the sun and how far away it is...that sounds unscientific as fukk to me but maybe he right about the earth being flat...