People were saying Floyd was ducking Margs for almost 3 years PRIOR to Mosley facing Margs.
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People were saying Floyd was ducking Margs for almost 3 years PRIOR to Mosley facing Margs.
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Smh if you don't post in the OG thread regularly I'm just gna assume you don't know boxing. Half the responses in here sound like cacsideboxing opinions
On both sides.
People cant even hate on Floyd or
for Floyd and keep it 100 at the same timePeople were saying Floyd was ducking Margs for almost 3 years PRIOR to Mosley facing Margs.
False
Margarito was never big enough to fight Floyd until he beat Cotto. If Margarito would've beat Shane, he would've been in demand to fight Floyd.
Who was a lesser name Floyd fought instead of Margarito, you can't name one.
People said Floyd was ducking Ricky Hatton
People said Floyd was ducking Zab Judah
When he fough Zab they said he was ducking Carlos Baldimir because Baldimir beat Zab
They said Floyd was ducking Diego Corrales
haven't figured out the pattern, all the shyt people saying is a bunch of bullshyt, anybody who cosigns is full of shyt
Ortiz and Guerrero were both WBC champions when Floyd fought them, how were the not the top of the division who sound like a fukking moron.
Marquez was pound for pound number 3 when Floyd fought him.
The last time Floyd fought somebody who wasn't a top ranked contender was Shamba when he first moved up to Welterweight
Prime example why boxing fans and boxing writers ain't shyt, and are the BIGGEST DETRIMENT TO BOXING BEING A MAINSTREM SPORT
That's now what I bolded. You said:
When Shane beat Margarito he got the shot and Margarito didn't, yet they say Floyd was scared of Margarito.
^^^Which was false. 3 years prior, people were already saying Floyd was ducking Margs when he fought Baldomir for $1 more instead of facing Baldomir
Carlos Baldomir
Nobody said he was ducking Baldomir or Hatton
Stop the lies
Because they had the WBC belt, that they won from Berto, that means they were the "highest ranked guys in the division"?
When Floyd fought any of those mexicans they were the highest ranked guy in the division,
^^^ No they werent
Marquez was a lightweight who had never fought above 135 before facing Floyd at a weight 2 divisions higher
What does this have to do with anything I quoted?
Prime example of the fact you don't know much of anything about Boxing and you tend to want to spar with those of us who do...and tnen end up getting embarrassed over and over again
That's now what I bolded. You said:
When Shane beat Margarito he got the shot and Margarito didn't, yet they say Floyd was scared of Margarito.
^^^Which was false. 3 years prior, people were already saying Floyd was ducking Margs when he fought Baldomir for $1 more instead of facing Baldomir
Carlos Baldomir
Nobody said he was ducking Baldomir or Hatton
Stop the lies
Because they had the WBC belt, that they won from Berto, that means they were the "highest ranked guys in the division"?
When Floyd fought any of those mexicans they were the highest ranked guy in the division,
^^^ No they werent
Marquez was a lightweight who had never fought above 135 before facing Floyd at a weight 2 divisions higher
What does this have to do with anything I quoted?
Prime example of the fact you don't know much of anything about Boxing and you tend to want to spar with those of us who do...and tnen end up getting embarrassed over and over again
You stupid as fukk, just like you was hating on Lebron with nonsense and you back at again, doing mental gymnastic.
Margarito was never big enough to fight Floyd, Floyd even told him that when Margarito confronted him first to face, and he said wait a few years and the fight will be bigger.
Shane was not suppose to beat Margarito, he was suppose to be a stepping stone, losing to Shane derailed any chance he had of facing the cash cow, and Shane only got the fight with Floyd because Pacquiao fight fell through.
You keep saying false
I will post proof they said Floyd was ducking Baldimir on ESPN, Brian Kenny said it
Put I will do so, if you agree to wear the WOAT banner instead of me.
If you so sure I'm lying TAKE THE BET.
I'm tried of you fakkits throwing stones and hiding your hands.
People been saying Floyd been ducking somebody his whole career, it's called HATERS.
They said he was ducking pac, now he ducking GGG
this is the dumb ass hating fakkit ass fanbase boxing ass.
Really?
Mayweather adviser Leonard Ellerbe told ESPN.com that Mayweather passed on the fight not because he is ducking Margarito, but because he couldn't be ready to fight by Aug. 12. Mayweather injured his right hand during a dominating April 8 victory against Zab Judah.
"Floyd is not 100 percent healthy," Ellerbe said. "He has a bruised right hand. His hand is not broken. It's bruised, but it's a bad bruise. He wants to go into any fight 100 percent healthy. If Antonio Margarito happens to be the best available option when he is healthy, so be it.
"We are not turning down Margarito. I want to make that crystal clear. When and if he is the best available option for Floyd's next fight, that's the direction he will move in."
Mayweather won't fight Margarito, splits with Arum
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah
You said:
When Shane beat Margarito he got the shot and Margarito didn't, yet they say Floyd was scared of Margarito.
^^^ Which was blatantly false, because it was being said already 3 years prior that Floyd was ducking Margs. Brush up on your boxing knowledge
"They said" = Brian Kenny saying that Floyd was ducking Baldomir to face Judah?
If anything, that's 1 person. Anyone seriously watching Boxing at the time KNOWS that Floyd vs Judah was still in high demand. 1 person saying something doesn't = the majority's opinion
i.e. Im sure there's probably a poster who probably likes your posts in The Ring, but the majority of us think you're the worst poster easily.....guess which opinion means more?
Brian Kenny saying "Floyd ducking Baldomir" means nothing. The majority opinion was that Judah got caught sleeping, but him vs Floyd was still heavily anticipated.
Stop crying
Nobody is talking about none of this stuff you're bringing up, so quit trying to squirm away from your OWN words
Article from 2006 from floydhype.com themselves for Baldomir vs Mayweather instead of Margs vs Floyd and even mentions all the talks about Floyd ducking Margs
BALDOMIR-MAYWEATHER: IT MIGHT NOT MAKE THE MOST DOLLARS, BUT IT MAKES THE MOST SENSE!
By Ben Thompson | July 25, 2006
Ricky Hatton?
OK.
Shane Mosley?
OK.
Winky Wright?
OK, again.
But Antonio Margarito? No way!
Okay, okay, okay...maybe I'm being a little harsh by dismissing Antonio Margarito as a viable opponent for boxing's "erstwhile pound-for-pound king", but not as harsh as some "respected" journalists have been in their lambasting of Floyd Mayweather simply for exploring his options. I mean honestly, if you're in the market for a new car, do you jump at the first offer? Maybe some of you suckers out there do, but personally, I like to weigh my options.
Love him or hate him, Floyd Mayweather Jr. is widely recognized by most as the best fighter on the planet. Considering the fact that he's now fighting in and around the three hottest divisions in boxing (jr. welterweight, welterweight, and jr. middleweight), one would think that a man with so many options would take his time when considering his next move. Mayweather just fought in April and since then, several fights have taken place that have produced a number of possible opponents:
On May 6th, Oscar De La Hoya defeated Ricardo Mayorga via 6th round TKO.
On May 13th, Ricky Hatton defeated Luis Collazo via unanimous decision.
On May 27th, Paul Williams defeated Walter Matthysse via 10th round TKO.
On June 24th, Carlos Quintana defeated Joel Julio via unanimous decision.
On July 8th, Cory Spinks defeated Roman Karmazin via majority decision.
On July 15th, Shane Mosley defeated Fernando Vargas via 6th round TKO.
On July 22nd, Carlos Baldomir defeated Arturo Gatti via 9th round TKO.
That's at least seven potential opponents for the best pound-for-pound figher in the world. Oh sure, some of those opponents have opted to go in another direction, but does that mean that Team Mayweather should eliminate all other potential opportunities by jumping at the first offer to fight Margarito? I don't think so. Acelino Freitas and Wladimir Klitschko both fought around the same time as Mayweather's last fight. Despite having fewer options, neither one of them were too quick to solidify their next opponent, and yet, I don't recall any "respected" journalists writing open letters or taking stabs at them. So what's the reason for rushing Mayweather into making a decision? Don't get me wrong, I too am anxiously awaiting Floyd Mayweather's next move, but I also realize that there were a lot of options to be considered.
With the last major fight in the welterweight division occuring this past weekend, the dust has settled and it won't be too long before Mayweather is set to announce his next opponent. And now that Carlos Baldomir has proven that his win over Zab Judah was no fluke, it should be clear which opponent is the next logical choice. Just ask any journalist who the welterweight champion of the world is and they'll all reply with an emphatic "Carlos Baldomir"! Well if Baldomir is the weltwerweight champion, doesn't it stand to reason that every fighter in the division should be getting in line to face him? In a world full of alphabet organizations, bogus ratings, and numerous title holders...a world where Ring Magazine, HBO and ESPN are quick to have leading spokesmen like Nigel Collins, Jim Lampley and Brian Kenney clean up the title mess by differentiating between "titlists" and true "champions"...one would think that most journalists would be clamoring for the best pound-for-pound fighter to take on the legitimate welterweight champion of the world.
Let's be honest, despite what some people may write, Baldomir has a much more solid claim as the man to beat at welterweight than Margarito ever did. Since winning his own version of the welterweight title (a title that was vacant, mind you), Margarito really hasn't done too much in the past four years. He has yet to fight anyone in the lineage...not Baldomir, not Judah, not Spinks, not Mayorga, not Forrest, not Mosley, not De La Hoya...no one. Plus, the only opponents that he has faced at 147 are WBO contenders that the casual fan hasn't even heard of. The last guy he fought, Manuel Gomez, wasn't even the #1 ranked contender....he was the 7th ranked contender. In fact, the highest rated contenders that Margarito has faced were Kermit Cintron (#1), Antonio Diaz (#2) and Danny Perez (#3)...and that list isn't even in order. Maurice Brantley, another challenger for Margarito's title, wasn't even ranked by the WBO to my knowledge...and if he was, there's no way he could have been ranked in the top 10 considering he was coming off of a 3 fight losing streak. Sebastian Lujan was the WBO's 10th ranked contender, Hercules Kyvelos was the WBO's 7th ranked contender and Andrew Lewis (who had just been brutally destroyed by Ricardo Mayorga a couple fights prior) was the WBO's 5th ranked contender. Truth be told, Andrew Lewis was the only former champion that Margarito has ever faced at welterweight. Baldomir, on the other hand, is the true lineal champion...simple as that! In his short reign as the welterweight king, he's already beaten former undisputed welterweight champion Zab Judah and two-division champion Arturo Gatti...and he didn't even need any writers to beg and plead on his behalf to get those fights.
So what's with all of this ink about a potential Mayweather-Margarito clash? After all, the winner of that fight isn't even going to be considered the true welterweight champion. In order for Mayweather to be considered the true champion, the only man he can face is Carlos Baldomir. He could fight Margarito, Hatton and Cotto in his next three fights and he still wouldn't be considered the true welterweight champion...unless, of course, one of those guys happened to beat Baldomir. Logically, if the goal is to help "clean up the title mess", then every boxing jounalist and "expert", from Brian Kenney to Nigel Collins, should drop all this talk about a Margarito fight and demand Mayweather to face Baldomir next...unless they'd rather see him fight a guy who's not really the true champion.
Damned if you do...damned if you don't.
Fight the true champion at 147, Baldomir, and be accused of ducking Margarito or fight Margarito and not be considered the true welterweight champion. Well, with Baldomir's win over Arturo Gatti, Mayweather now becomes the WBC #1 contender and should be next in line to challenge the true welterweight champion. I'm sure my friends at The Ring, ESPN and HBO would all agree that, for the good of boxing, Baldomir-Mayweather sould be the next big welterweight fight.
Sorry Margarito, The Truth can be hard to swallow, but it looks like you might have to get certain writers to find you a new opponent.
BALDOMIR-MAYWEATHER: IT MIGHT NOT MAKE THE MOST DOLLARS, BUT IT MAKES THE MOST SENSE!|| FIGHTHYPE.COM
for Baldomir vs Mayweather instead of Margs vs Floyd and even mentions all the talks about Floyd ducking MargsBALDOMIR-MAYWEATHER: IT MIGHT NOT MAKE THE MOST DOLLARS, BUT IT MAKES THE MOST SENSE!
By Ben Thompson | July 25, 2006
Ricky Hatton?
OK.
Shane Mosley?
OK.
Winky Wright?
OK, again.
But Antonio Margarito? No way!
Okay, okay, okay...maybe I'm being a little harsh by dismissing Antonio Margarito as a viable opponent for boxing's "erstwhile pound-for-pound king", but not as harsh as some "respected" journalists have been in their lambasting of Floyd Mayweather simply for exploring his options. I mean honestly, if you're in the market for a new car, do you jump at the first offer? Maybe some of you suckers out there do, but personally, I like to weigh my options.
Love him or hate him, Floyd Mayweather Jr. is widely recognized by most as the best fighter on the planet. Considering the fact that he's now fighting in and around the three hottest divisions in boxing (jr. welterweight, welterweight, and jr. middleweight), one would think that a man with so many options would take his time when considering his next move. Mayweather just fought in April and since then, several fights have taken place that have produced a number of possible opponents:
On May 6th, Oscar De La Hoya defeated Ricardo Mayorga via 6th round TKO.
On May 13th, Ricky Hatton defeated Luis Collazo via unanimous decision.
On May 27th, Paul Williams defeated Walter Matthysse via 10th round TKO.
On June 24th, Carlos Quintana defeated Joel Julio via unanimous decision.
On July 8th, Cory Spinks defeated Roman Karmazin via majority decision.
On July 15th, Shane Mosley defeated Fernando Vargas via 6th round TKO.
On July 22nd, Carlos Baldomir defeated Arturo Gatti via 9th round TKO.
That's at least seven potential opponents for the best pound-for-pound figher in the world. Oh sure, some of those opponents have opted to go in another direction, but does that mean that Team Mayweather should eliminate all other potential opportunities by jumping at the first offer to fight Margarito? I don't think so. Acelino Freitas and Wladimir Klitschko both fought around the same time as Mayweather's last fight. Despite having fewer options, neither one of them were too quick to solidify their next opponent, and yet, I don't recall any "respected" journalists writing open letters or taking stabs at them. So what's the reason for rushing Mayweather into making a decision? Don't get me wrong, I too am anxiously awaiting Floyd Mayweather's next move, but I also realize that there were a lot of options to be considered.
With the last major fight in the welterweight division occuring this past weekend, the dust has settled and it won't be too long before Mayweather is set to announce his next opponent. And now that Carlos Baldomir has proven that his win over Zab Judah was no fluke, it should be clear which opponent is the next logical choice. Just ask any journalist who the welterweight champion of the world is and they'll all reply with an emphatic "Carlos Baldomir"! Well if Baldomir is the weltwerweight champion, doesn't it stand to reason that every fighter in the division should be getting in line to face him? In a world full of alphabet organizations, bogus ratings, and numerous title holders...a world where Ring Magazine, HBO and ESPN are quick to have leading spokesmen like Nigel Collins, Jim Lampley and Brian Kenney clean up the title mess by differentiating between "titlists" and true "champions"...one would think that most journalists would be clamoring for the best pound-for-pound fighter to take on the legitimate welterweight champion of the world.
Let's be honest, despite what some people may write, Baldomir has a much more solid claim as the man to beat at welterweight than Margarito ever did. Since winning his own version of the welterweight title (a title that was vacant, mind you), Margarito really hasn't done too much in the past four years. He has yet to fight anyone in the lineage...not Baldomir, not Judah, not Spinks, not Mayorga, not Forrest, not Mosley, not De La Hoya...no one. Plus, the only opponents that he has faced at 147 are WBO contenders that the casual fan hasn't even heard of. The last guy he fought, Manuel Gomez, wasn't even the #1 ranked contender....he was the 7th ranked contender. In fact, the highest rated contenders that Margarito has faced were Kermit Cintron (#1), Antonio Diaz (#2) and Danny Perez (#3)...and that list isn't even in order. Maurice Brantley, another challenger for Margarito's title, wasn't even ranked by the WBO to my knowledge...and if he was, there's no way he could have been ranked in the top 10 considering he was coming off of a 3 fight losing streak. Sebastian Lujan was the WBO's 10th ranked contender, Hercules Kyvelos was the WBO's 7th ranked contender and Andrew Lewis (who had just been brutally destroyed by Ricardo Mayorga a couple fights prior) was the WBO's 5th ranked contender. Truth be told, Andrew Lewis was the only former champion that Margarito has ever faced at welterweight. Baldomir, on the other hand, is the true lineal champion...simple as that! In his short reign as the welterweight king, he's already beaten former undisputed welterweight champion Zab Judah and two-division champion Arturo Gatti...and he didn't even need any writers to beg and plead on his behalf to get those fights.
So what's with all of this ink about a potential Mayweather-Margarito clash? After all, the winner of that fight isn't even going to be considered the true welterweight champion. In order for Mayweather to be considered the true champion, the only man he can face is Carlos Baldomir. He could fight Margarito, Hatton and Cotto in his next three fights and he still wouldn't be considered the true welterweight champion...unless, of course, one of those guys happened to beat Baldomir. Logically, if the goal is to help "clean up the title mess", then every boxing jounalist and "expert", from Brian Kenney to Nigel Collins, should drop all this talk about a Margarito fight and demand Mayweather to face Baldomir next...unless they'd rather see him fight a guy who's not really the true champion.
Damned if you do...damned if you don't.
Fight the true champion at 147, Baldomir, and be accused of ducking Margarito or fight Margarito and not be considered the true welterweight champion. Well, with Baldomir's win over Arturo Gatti, Mayweather now becomes the WBC #1 contender and should be next in line to challenge the true welterweight champion. I'm sure my friends at The Ring, ESPN and HBO would all agree that, for the good of boxing, Baldomir-Mayweather sould be the next big welterweight fight.
Sorry Margarito, The Truth can be hard to swallow, but it looks like you might have to get certain writers to find you a new opponent.
BALDOMIR-MAYWEATHER: IT MIGHT NOT MAKE THE MOST DOLLARS, BUT IT MAKES THE MOST SENSE!|| FIGHTHYPE.COM
Tide Run This
Veteran
fukk MARGACHEATO AND ARUM
Really?
Mayweather adviser Leonard Ellerbe told ESPN.com that Mayweather passed on the fight not because he is ducking Margarito, but because he couldn't be ready to fight by Aug. 12. Mayweather injured his right hand during a dominating April 8 victory against Zab Judah.
"Floyd is not 100 percent healthy," Ellerbe said. "He has a bruised right hand. His hand is not broken. It's bruised, but it's a bad bruise. He wants to go into any fight 100 percent healthy. If Antonio Margarito happens to be the best available option when he is healthy, so be it.
"We are not turning down Margarito. I want to make that crystal clear. When and if he is the best available option for Floyd's next fight, that's the direction he will move in."
Mayweather won't fight Margarito, splits with Arum
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah
You said:
When Shane beat Margarito he got the shot and Margarito didn't, yet they say Floyd was scared of Margarito.
^^^ Which was blatantly false, because it was being said already 3 years prior that Floyd was ducking Margs. Brush up on your boxing knowledge
"They said" = Brian Kenny saying that Floyd was ducking Baldomir to face Judah?
If anything, that's 1 person. Anyone seriously watching Boxing at the time KNOWS that Floyd vs Judah was still in high demand. 1 person saying something doesn't = the majority's opinion
i.e. Im sure there's probably a poster who probably likes your posts in The Ring, but the majority of us think you're the worst poster easily.....guess which opinion means more?
Brian Kenny saying "Floyd ducking Baldomir" means nothing. The majority opinion was that Judah got caught sleeping, but him vs Floyd was still heavily anticipated.
Stop crying
Nobody is talking about none of this stuff you're bringing up, so quit trying to squirm away from your OWN words
If Margarito happens to the best option when Healthy IT CLEARLY SAYS THAT. Baldimir had the WBC belt, and winning that got belt got him the fight with Oscar.
So everything I said was correct.
Brian Kenny works for EPSN, THEY=MEDIA, the source of all your dumb ass thoughts because you can't think for yourself.
I actually won money because people thought Floyd was too small for Baldimir.
Kenny also said he was ducking Ricky Hatton, it was all documented, him saying this stuff on ESPN is how this ducker stuff got in the pysche of parotting morons like you.
The same the Lebron "rings" "not being clutch" shyt got in your mind because of Skip Bayless you fukking drone.
Nice side step on the bet, lying ass nikka
krackdagawd
Inspire.
You nikkas still don't understand that when you're at Floyd's level it takes a while to market the fight. He can't just fight any and everybody.
As far as the Marg talk he had to resign to Arum for that shyt so fukk that fight i wouldn't fight that cheating Mexican either. His resume is just fine without him he had wins over nikkas that beat the shyt out of that one eyed fakkit.
As far as the Marg talk he had to resign to Arum for that shyt so fukk that fight i wouldn't fight that cheating Mexican either. His resume is just fine without him he had wins over nikkas that beat the shyt out of that one eyed fakkit.
King P
Legends Never Die
That was the reason why it didn't happen. Had Floyd done that, he would have missed out on the Oscar fight.
Even then, Floyd said he'd fight Margarito for the 8 mil he was being offered if he was guaranteed 10 for both Cotto & Hatton in the future. Arum would only guarantee him 7.
How the fukk are you gonna guarantee 8 mil for Margarito (a nobody as far as ratings go) then guarantee him less against established stars
The truth is that Floyd was set on leaving Arum to get the Oscar fight, and Arum knew this. So he gave him this lowball offer that he knew Floyd would decline so that he could turn around and run a smear campaign on him when he left. And you idiots fell for the bait, hook line & sinker
krackdagawd
Inspire.
krackdagawd
Inspire.
That was the reason why it didn't happen. Had Floyd done that, he would have missed out on the Oscar fight.
Even then, Floyd said he'd fight Margarito for the 8 mil he was being offered if he was guaranteed 10 for both Cotto & Hatton in the future. Arum would only guarantee him 7.
How the fukk are you gonna guarantee 8 mil for Margarito (a nobody as far as ratings go) then guarantee him less against established stars
The truth is that Floyd was set on leaving Arum to get the Oscar fight, and Arum knew this. So he gave him this lowball offer that he knew Floyd would decline so that he could turn around and run a smear campaign on him when he left. And you idiots fell for the bait, hook line & sinker
Right and if this was such a big fight why not make it when Floyd was still under contract....Marg 's biggest win at the time was what Cintron? Clottey?
but the minute Floyd was going to bounce and fight Oscar Marg's was the guy he was ducking
That was the reason why it didn't happen. Had Floyd done that, he would have missed out on the Oscar fight.
Even then, Floyd said he'd fight Margarito for the 8 mil he was being offered if he was guaranteed 10 for both Cotto & Hatton in the future. Arum would only guarantee him 7.
How the fukk are you gonna guarantee 8 mil for Margarito (a nobody as far as ratings go) then guarantee him less against established stars
The truth is that Floyd was set on leaving Arum to get the Oscar fight, and Arum knew this. So he gave him this lowball offer that he knew Floyd would decline so that he could turn around and run a smear campaign on him when he left. And you idiots fell for the bait, hook line & sinker
i mean you see how Arum did Mickey
Right and if this was such a big fight why not make it when Floyd was still under contract....Marg 's biggest win at the time was what Cintron? Clottey?
but the minute Floyd was going to bounce and fight Oscar Marg's was the guy he was ducking
None of these posts have to do with what I was saying though
Bottomline is:
"When Shane beat Margarito he got the shot and Margarito didn't, yet they say Floyd was scared of Margarito."
^^^ That is false. We were ALREADY saying he ducked Margs for 3 years prior to Margs/Mosley even happening.
Whether he actually "ducked Margarito or not" isn't the issue being discussed.