Floyd "Money" Mayweather set to be released from jail on Friday

[InvictusAeternusEternus]

A legit holder, thats it

Why he duck fighters like Bryd a small heavyweight who was calling Roy out, Roy picked and choose the shyttest heavy we all know Roy wanted no parts of facing top competition in his prime

I dont disagree but I think Ruiz is better than your giving him credit for. Roy
would have been much better off if his father didnt fvck up and keep making him fight bums early in his career. His pops severly stunted his growth and held him back from his potential of being a top 5 p4p fighter in history maybe even top 3.

 

[TheProfessor]

I dont disagree but I think Ruiz is better than your giving him credit for. Roy
would have been much better off if his father didnt fvck up and keep making him fight bums early in his career. His pops severly stunted his growth and held him back from his potential of being a top 5 p4p fighter in history maybe even top 3.

There was no opponent those years that would have made him top 5 or top 3 anyway. That's just the luck of the draw.

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

Why are you trying to bubble me in the 2000-20004 range, just look at all his KO's before 2000, compared to after he got popped with roids to current day, and you'll see that his power faded, and then he became a decsion fighter, fukker couldn't even knock out a shaky chin Trinidad who waltz out of retirement 20-30 pounds from his prime weight

Tito had no business takin that fight....dude was a G he gave no fukks about who he fought

 

[Skip b]

Before he got busted, two of his last three LHW fights had gone the distance. After? He stopped three of his next four LHW opponents.

2 was stopped by the corner, not knocked out, Roy in his prime used to strech nikkas early, after he got popped people used withstand his barrages for like 10 whole rounds before quitting, standing on their feet



I won't even talk about the Kelly match, that was one of the most fixed fights I ever seen , but thats a whole another thread

 

[Skip b]

Tito had no business takin that fight....dude was a G he gave no fukks about who he fought

Put up a good ass fight too from what I seen Tito in his Prime would have been all wrong for Roy, too bad Tito lost to BHOP and couldn't get that match

 

[InvictusAeternusEternus]

There was no opponent those years that would have made him top 5 or top 3 anyway. That's just the luck of the draw.

I think he could have went over seas and crushed Dariuz and a few other guys maybe rematched B Hop and Toney and fought Calazghe earlier it would have been enoug. That is if he was able to dominate them in the same manner he did Toney

 

[TheProfessor]

2 was stopped by the corner, not knocked out, Roy in his prime used to strech nikkas early, after he got popped people used withstand his barrages for like 10 whole rounds before quitting, standing on their feet



I won't even talk about the Kelly match, that was one of the most fixed fights I ever seen , but thats a whole another thread

A TKO is a TKO whether the corner does it or the ref does it. I thought you were a boxing fan?

Let's face it, you're using boxrec because you never saw those fights. But you should try using your brain at the same time. Some of us actually lived through that. And can tell you that Jones went from being a homerun hitter at 168 to a doubles hitter at 175. Save for the back to back KOs of Griffin and Hill, he never was the same power puncher he was in the lower divisions.

But you like going on tangents because you don't have a leg to stand on. You asked me to name one elite fighter who Pernell Whitaker fought in the lower divisions. I named Azumah Nelson who, any real boxing fan can tell you, is one of the greatest feathers of all time. You said he couldn't be great because he lost five times. I guess Roberto Duran isn't great either. And Muhammed Ali....right?

 

[TheProfessor]

I think he could have went over seas and crushed Dariuz and a few other guys maybe rematched B Hop and Toney and fought Calazghe earlier it would have been enoug. That is if he was able to dominate them in the same manner he did Toney

Ehh...I don't think beating Dariusz would have made him top five.

And he was supposed to rematch Toney...provided Toney got past Griffin. He didn't. So Jones fought Griffin instead.

As for Calzaghe...he definitely didn't want to fight Roy in his prime.

I don't think Jones could ever crack the top ten. At 168 he was the best fighter I've ever seen but in the end you're judged on accomplishments and while his are all-time status, they fall short of that level.

 

[patscorpio]

sweet pea defense was some other shyt...as many had stated he made alot of top fighters look foolish in the ring..i remember when he fought azumah nelson and azumah had a hard time hitting him cleanly talmabout "this is bullshyt!!!!"

floyd defense was better in the fact that floyd didn't take too many chances unless he needed to and no one ever made him pay for it (except castillo) while on many occasions whitaker would clown a little too much and got flash knocked down a good amount of times

im saying this being a way bigger fan of pernell than floyd

 

[AAKing23]

He prolly gon TEAR Ms. Jackson's puss UP too.

Dat sumbytch.

 

[Skip b]

A TKO is a TKO whether the corner does it or the ref does it. I thought you were a boxing fan?

Let's face it, you're using boxrec because you never saw those fights. But you should try using your brain at the same time. Some of us actually lived through that. And can tell you that Jones went from being a homerun hitter at 168 to a doubles hitter at 175. Save for the back to back KOs of Griffin and Hill, he never was the same power puncher he was in the lower divisions.

But you like going on tangents because you don't have a leg to stand on. You asked me to name one elite fighter who Pernell Whitaker fought in the lower divisions. I named Azumah Nelson who, any real boxing fan can tell you, is one of the greatest feathers of all time. You said he couldn't be great because he lost five times. I guess Roberto Duran isn't great either. And Muhammed Ali....right?

so you gonna act like he didn't only Ko 6 of 21 fighters he fought after roids, and 33 out of 42 before being outed, those numbers right there is staggering

 

[TheProfessor]

so you gonna act like he didn't only Ko 6 of 21 fighters he fought after roids, and 33 out of 42 before being outed, those numbers right there is staggering

Well yes, on the surface. But some of us read between the lines, not just look up boxrec and spout stuff. We'd see that Jones began slipping in his 30's (like most fighters do), began taking more shots etc. But what really killed him is that he cut about 15lbs of muscle at the ripe old age of 35, moving back down to 175, and was never the same. None of those fights you mention occurred in his prime so it's silly to reference them. But don't worry, as you continue to watch more of the sport, you'll learn.

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

so you gonna act like he didn't only Ko 6 of 21 fighters he fought after roids, and 33 out of 42 before being outed, those numbers right there is staggering

Not to mention alot of those later mandatory fights was against Australian garbagemen, cops, N construction workers

 

[NormanConnors]

prime versus prime, sweet peas D is a notch or two better than Floyd, as a matter of fact there is a little of sweet peas dna in Floyd defense as well. Peas chin was underrated as well, never was hurt and if he got dropped it was due to clowning/or being caught off balance... at Sweet Pea having 4 legit losses tho, he was robbed for his first loss (which he avenged), and was robbed against chavez and Oscar (past his prime pernell vs in his prime Oscar mind you)...his only legit loss came to tito when he was past it and on coke, if it wasnt for the coke habit he probably would have beat tito. Im a Floyd stan by the way

 

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