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gronk is bein driven back by kuechly, the ball goes exactly where gronk was before he's prevented from stopping and coming back to the spot, while lester jumps in front. its clearly PI/Face guarding, holding or illegal contact. all of those could of been called and been correct.
 
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its part of the game, the refs call the game how they call the game, they could've called it and could not have
Tom Brady threw that ball nowhere near Gronk for one, he didn't even need to hold him, two it was intercepted
three all the refs came together and made the decision, four fukk the pats and cheating asses anyway
 

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I don't see what the big deal is...to believe that ball was catchable is to say that Gronk...who was running toward the back of the endzone..was going to be able to stop, and come forward to make a good solid attempt to catch that pass...

Look at where that ball is thrown in relation to when Gronk stops fading backwards for the ball...

Look at where the ball was intercepted at...

I don't necessarily have the laws of physics on speed dial...but we are cool enough for him to confide in me that no way in hell Gronk was getting to that ball...
 

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I don't see what the big deal is...to believe that ball was catchable is to say that Gronk...who was running toward the back of the endzone..was going to be able to stop, and come forward to make a good solid attempt to catch that pass...

Look at where that ball is thrown in relation to when Gronk stops fading backwards for the ball...

Look at where the ball was intercepted at...

I don't necessarily have the laws of physics on speed dial...but we are cool enough for him to confide in me that no way in hell Gronk was getting to that ball...

Yes.

But that's not what "uncatchable" means by rule. The refs aren't allowed to account for what happens in front of the play unless it happens before the contact/penalty.
 

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Yes.

But that's not what "uncatchable" means by rule. The refs aren't allowed to account for what happens in front of the play unless it happens before the contact/penalty.


Actually that is exactly what uncatchable means. Uncatchable is always based on the refs judgement...what else could it possibly be based on? In this case one of the refs felt that it was not possible for gronk to stop and come forward enough to get in front of that defender...

I think this is a key element people are leaving out...that gronk has to get in front of or at least dead even with the guy who intercepted it...look at the video...no way on earth that was going to happen
 

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Actually that is exactly what uncatchable means. Uncatchable is always based on the refs judgement...what else could it possibly be based on? In this case one of the refs felt that it was not possible for gronk to stop and come forward enough to get in front of that defender...

I think this is a key element people are leaving out...that gronk has to get in front of or at least dead even with the guy who intercepted it...look at the video...no way on earth that was going to happen

Nope. The rule is fairly ambiguous, but that has NEVER been the interpretation of the rule before last night.

Like I said, I don't have a problem with the call itself, because I know Gronk wasn't getting back to that ball.

But that has never been the way it's called.

It's why the rule allows for contact to occur AFTER a ball is tipped and not on any play when a ball is tipped. It's to take as much judgement as possible out of the refs hands.

Based on the last 20 years of NFL football, last night's flag should not have been picked up.
 

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Honestly, the rule is fukking dumb.

So a hold is not a penalty if a ball is uncatchable....but a hold on one side of the field while the play is on the other side of the field which did not affect the play at all is a penalty. The rule book is flawed. They also need to chill on the tacky roughing the passer penalties.
 

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Honestly, the rule is fukking dumb.

So a hold is not a penalty if a ball is uncatchable....but a hold on one side of the field while the play is on the other side of the field which did not affect the play at all is a penalty. The rule book is flawed. They also need to chill on the tacky roughing the passer penalties.

At the very minimum, last night should have been called illegal contact or defensive holding.
 
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