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For those that missed it: WWE Champion Randy Orton's championship coronation & daniel bryan sonning
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The theme of Austin/Punk/Bryan feuds are the same -- it's how a unique individual has to deal with the agendas of corporate America. But all three have completely different appeals. Austin was a heel everyone liked because he drank beer, cursed, cagey and would never quit. But he was like The Terminator in his obsessive will. He was essentially a bad guy from the comics who went after an even worse bad guy and was beloved for it. I rooted for Austin but didn't always have the most sympathy for him -- if you're Stunning everyone in sight, people are going to want to get theirs.
Punk was the dude at work who felt like he had absolutely nothing to lose because he had enough in savings to quit. But he's a natural sh-t stirrer and couldn't resist poking a stick in a hornet's nest just because there was an abusive power structure. He's like the token punk in a high school populated by cool kid jocks who doesn't give one crap. But the only thing, those people have a martyr complex that can get old. That's Punk's fatal flaw -- he has a total martyr complex. It's actually great he has that in both his tell-it-like-it-is face persona as well as his Straightedge Savior persona.
Bryan's the most everyman of the three. He's one of us. He looks like us. He's an admitted nerd. I wrote in the August Discussion about my travails in the workplace and how much I see and feel that in Bryan -- I've gotten passed over for not going to a pedigree college or having a messy desk as opposed to being judged on my merits, talent and personality. I had to sell out (bye bye Weezer T-shirt, hello Jos. A. Bank sportscoat) a little bit because the real world doesn't doesn't work like that and I've got a family, debt and various wants and needs that a raise can provide for. But in the exaggerated world of professional wrestling -- the ultimate form of storytelling for the American Common Man -- I get to root for a dude who was given a chance to sell out, held his ground, attempted to become a star on his own merits without any patron pulling strings for him, and now has an entire corporate board scheming against him despite his division turning in the best quarterly profits the company has seen in years. It's how it is for dudes who discovered Pavement in high school or became vegans in college who are faced with the adult fact that you have to work for the man.
As Matt D. put it -- Bryan's the Steve Austin for the post-2008 world of young, middle-class (and below) people sold on a failed American Dream, kids who were told their whole lives they can be anything they wanted, did the right things and worked hard and went to college, but now find themselves mired in a mountain of student debt and are forced to take a job working for the man. And when they're there, they quickly see that the system in place treats them like a number essentially there to help a stock price when making layoff announcements during an earnings call with Wall Street advisers, whereas the anointed few (the old guard who hire their children like the McMahon's, the people who look and talk the part and like Randy Orton) have all of the managerial power. Those of us who fit into the first category who have a lot of talent to shine face a huge amount of hurdles (executive vice-presidents scheming to protect their spots with the help of people they know from top 15 MBA programs, allegedly independent corporate boards stocked with the CEOs buddies from the country club) trying to make it to that spot. Bryan dealing with all of the odds stacked against him is the most I've ever related to a wrestling character. When he wins, we all do.
The theme of Austin/Punk/Bryan feuds are the same -- it's how a unique individual has to deal with the agendas of corporate America. But all three have completely different appeals. Austin was a heel everyone liked because he drank beer, cursed, cagey and would never quit. But he was like The Terminator in his obsessive will. He was essentially a bad guy from the comics who went after an even worse bad guy and was beloved for it. I rooted for Austin but didn't always have the most sympathy for him -- if you're Stunning everyone in sight, people are going to want to get theirs.
Punk was the dude at work who felt like he had absolutely nothing to lose because he had enough in savings to quit. But he's a natural sh-t stirrer and couldn't resist poking a stick in a hornet's nest just because there was an abusive power structure. He's like the token punk in a high school populated by cool kid jocks who doesn't give one crap. But the only thing, those people have a martyr complex that can get old. That's Punk's fatal flaw -- he has a total martyr complex. It's actually great he has that in both his tell-it-like-it-is face persona as well as his Straightedge Savior persona.
Bryan's the most everyman of the three. He's one of us. He looks like us. He's an admitted nerd. I wrote in the August Discussion about my travails in the workplace and how much I see and feel that in Bryan -- I've gotten passed over for not going to a pedigree college or having a messy desk as opposed to being judged on my merits, talent and personality. I had to sell out (bye bye Weezer T-shirt, hello Jos. A. Bank sportscoat) a little bit because the real world doesn't doesn't work like that and I've got a family, debt and various wants and needs that a raise can provide for. But in the exaggerated world of professional wrestling -- the ultimate form of storytelling for the American Common Man -- I get to root for a dude who was given a chance to sell out, held his ground, attempted to become a star on his own merits without any patron pulling strings for him, and now has an entire corporate board scheming against him despite his division turning in the best quarterly profits the company has seen in years. It's how it is for dudes who discovered Pavement in high school or became vegans in college who are faced with the adult fact that you have to work for the man.
As Matt D. put it -- Bryan's the Steve Austin for the post-2008 world of young, middle-class (and below) people sold on a failed American Dream, kids who were told their whole lives they can be anything they wanted, did the right things and worked hard and went to college, but now find themselves mired in a mountain of student debt and are forced to take a job working for the man. And when they're there, they quickly see that the system in place treats them like a number essentially there to help a stock price when making layoff announcements during an earnings call with Wall Street advisers, whereas the anointed few (the old guard who hire their children like the McMahon's, the people who look and talk the part and like Randy Orton) have all of the managerial power. Those of us who fit into the first category who have a lot of talent to shine face a huge amount of hurdles (executive vice-presidents scheming to protect their spots with the help of people they know from top 15 MBA programs, allegedly independent corporate boards stocked with the CEOs buddies from the country club) trying to make it to that spot. Bryan dealing with all of the odds stacked against him is the most I've ever related to a wrestling character. When he wins, we all do.
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#RollTide #TSC #RiseUp #BullsNation #RIPKobe
Corporation 2.0 got these nikkas wanting to go through their tv screen 
I'm in, long live the Corporation
Ed MOTHEREFFING G
Chances make champions
I disagree with the austin comparisons. This is MUCH MORE like foley 2000. A dude who doesn't fit the mold of a pro wrestler that vince does everything in his power in a condecending manner to embarass, screw, and clown. Proves himself only to get screwed again. HHH as the main antagonist is no coincedince.
mortuus est
Veteran
i related more to the rock tbh
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Feels something like the 1998 crusade against Austin...he doesn't fit the mold and they want to be against him for his look and shyt. It also feels like the Rock in 2000 when it was him against the entire world..but don't get it twisted. Big Show/Ziggler/Henry are gonna want payback against them soon enough....they'll look good initially but Corp 2.0 is gonna take some hits too. It's not gonna be some NwO type shyt. lol.
Ed MOTHEREFFING G
Chances make champions
Well it's obvious..it's all coming from the real life notion that McMahon always favored big guys and a certain look. He hasn't played that hand during the Cena run because he's a pretty boy who's a work out fiend. Who would buy McMahon not liking Cena as their top face or anything? Male fans would never trust that angle. Bryan being from Indy beginnings, making himself, getting here by force of will after being FIRED legitimately the first time around, and now having to overcome hate for his size and being despised because he doesn't look a certain mold. It pulls you in..it works on all levels too..for kids/women/adults. The fans are 100% into Bryan but his look is why they are against him? That's a heat magnet considering how far they've tried to act like Cena is a god even though fans hate his guts.
Ed MOTHEREFFING G
Chances make champions
I'm indifferent to those moments since Cena always get the payback and no sells the shyt like it doesn't matter.
Ed MOTHEREFFING G
Chances make champions
All Mick Foley wanted was love and acceptance. From his wearing the suit and tie as Mankind as Vince's "son" to being Corporate Dude Love, to "pick me Steve" to him begging and pleading with Rock and doing anything to gain his acceptance in the Rock n Sock connection. He talked about him getting turned down by WWF for 10 years and deforming his body to get there. He was never the best, his win of the title was a lifetime achievement award and a subset to Austin getting revenge on Vince's chosen one.
Daniel Bryan put his work in not only just to make it to WWE but he is the best. He's not asking for anything besides what's due to him. He was kicking Ortons ass a couple months back before HHH stopped the match, then made Randy tap in the street fight, beat Sheamus, beat Cesaro,Swagger, and Ryback in a gauntlet, then beat John Cena clean with no fukkery or distraction. He's being told he doesn't deserve to be champion over someone like Randy who he's better than, and told that he doesn't "appeal" to the audience when hes getting the biggest regular pops ANYBODY has gotten since the Attitude era peak. He is the everyday working man who has to use everything he has to get a crumb while the 1% has gotten everything they got on handouts and nepotism (Vince,Stephanie, HHH, Orton).