Forbes: Falling Illegal Immigration Numbers Confirm No Border Crisis

[krackdagawd]

my senses start tingling when I see the term "illegals"

 

[Berniewood Hogan]

the fact that ANYONE supports illegals blows my mind.

there is no logical reason to do so.

Ask the conservative businessmen who hire them to work their fields, factories, warehouses, restaurants, etc.

I don’t want water in my house.

Your parents immigrated here. And I don't trust their paperwork. Very possibly fraudulent. Let's get ICE on the case. In the meantime, you need to be detained, you alien. Who knows what diseases or drugs you've brought in here. This is my house, not yours, foreigner.

 

[the cac mamba]

the fact that ANYONE supports illegals blows my mind.

there is no logical reason to do so.

there's only 3 reasons to support them

-you're here illegally
-you hire them
-you're a DNC shill

 

[¯\_(ツ)_/¯]

there's only 3 reasons to support them

-you're here illegally
-you hire them
-you're a DNC shill

It’s not that you hope ppl come here illegally it’s just....a million other things to obsess over and get upset about.

 

[Berniewood Hogan]

there's only 3 reasons to support them

-you're here illegally

Self-explanatory, but not always true. There are illegals who have the "I made it, fukk everybody else" mentality.'

-you hire them

So ask these people why they hire them instead of complaining about:

-you're a DNC shill

this all the time, which isn't even true. pelosi would trip over her old floppy t*ts to tell you how tough she wants to be on the border. she just doesn't want to waste billions on a literal wall. steel slats! transparent!

 

[the cac mamba]

It’s not that you hope ppl come here illegally it’s just....a million other things to obsess over and get upset about.

fair enough i just think people should be allowed to bring up negative things about illegal immigration, and make valid criticisms

is a problem like washington corruption worse than illegal immigration? yes, absolutely. but that doesnt do much for the person who had their SS number stolen by an illegal, or the person who got hit by an illegal with no insurance and is left with a totaled car and hospital bills, etc

 

[DEAD7]

I’d love to move the trek from [insert country south of us]further off the table. One in 4 women are raped and children sex trafficked along the way.
The idea of having people make the Trek only to find no employment/assistance is disturbing too...

I’d love to secure the border and better control who enters.
I’d love to expand ice and increase upon Obama’s deportation efforts.

I’d also like to bar those who have entered the country illegally and their children from attending tax funded schools.

I also laugh at the cost issue when both sides of the isle give billions to Israel(38b this last round) to wipe out Palestinians...
6-7billion isn’t a lot of money for the American government and the government spends a lot more on legitimately evil things. The wall at least provides a tax payer benefit(real or perceived).

 

[Pressure]

Estimated wall cost is around 100bn+

 

[Reece]

if you have water coming in and then it stops rushing in as you say, you don't call a plumber and pay him to stop the water from coming in. no your focus then becomes what to do with the water you have in the house. maybe you pump it out to your lawn and garden so you can use it to your benefit.


so maybe your ass should travel back in time and build the wall then.

But we get the water out the house though

 

[Gains]

But we get the water out the house though

Here , just in case you think Uruguay is closer than Barbados

 

[Black Panther]

is over 300K ppl not big enough to be warranted a problem?

just because it has gone down doesn't mean the problem has disappeared.

Negged.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

6-7billion isn’t a lot of money for the American government and the government spends a lot more on legitimately evil things. The wall at least provides a tax payer benefit(real or perceived).

That's not even close to the cost of the wall, that's just the start-up money.

 

[Reece]

Here , just in case you think Uruguay is closer than Barbados

Make false statements for daps brehs Tell us again how someone from Oaxaca and the rest of Southern Mexico is closer to the USA than someone in Cuba, smart dumb one as if illegal immigrants are coming from Cuidad Juarez when they been walking for months Just dumb. No thought process. Too stupid to know Northern Mexico is the richer half of the country. Too stupid to know the gangs, violence and poverty is more prevalent in the south. Too stupid to know that's where 70% of the migrants are coming from, and from countries beyond. Too stupid to see Cuba is a stone's throw from Miami and most of Mexico is a long fukking journey to the States. Too stupid to know its probably easier to hop a boat than to risk traveling through regions filled with murderers, kidnappers and the cartels. Too stupid to know like 40,000 people went missing in Mexico this year alone and there are mass grave sites littered throughout the countrysides and deserts. Just dumb man

 

[DEAD7]

That's not even close to the cost of the wall, that's just the start-up money.

What would your guess at the end cost be?

 

[Professor Emeritus]

What would your guess at the end cost be?

I obviously don't have a clue how much it would cost, but the initial internal estimates claimed $25 billion, and others have claimed up to $70 billion.

But there is no "end cost", as it would require constant upkeep and maintenance. You'll notice that we're already spending billions to repair and replace the parts of the wall/fence that are already up. That would never end. And the longer that coyotes and drug runners and the rest had to work on defeating the wall, the more our costs for defending would continue to rise regardless of whether the wall was there or not.


Now, on the other hand think about this. Guatemala's entire government's budget is only $9 billion/year. Nicaragua is only $4 billion/year. Honduras? $5 billion. For a fraction of the cost of the wall, we could help them address some of the problems that OUR GOVERNMENT caused in those countries so you wouldn't have hundreds of thousands of people trying to flee their homeland anymore. Then you would solve a large part of the border crossing issue AND the gang issue and a small part of the drug issue, by addressing the root cause instead of a giant bandaid. And it wouldn't be the environmental disaster or ugly xenophobic image of the wall either.

Then in the USA you could address the war on drugs in a productive way that at the least would stop a considerable amount of the drug flow (decriminalization) and at best would reduce the number of addicts and the power of crime networks and gangs while improving communities. That probably wouldn't even cost anything, it would be a net gain because of all the savings due to lower prison population and ability to redirect police resources.