Fox News Reminds Us Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's Platform Is Pretty Reasonable

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Sometimes, you get an indication that someone on Fox News is getting high on their own supply. Or maybe Sean Hannity's graphics team is just getting sick of him. But it seems more likely that President Trump's late-night-phone-companion is so deep into the Lib-Bashing Vortex that he is starting to lose his grip on things. The result is that, Wednesday night, Hannity found himself bashing a political platform that included "support seniors" and "clean campaign finance."

The segment was designed to attack the platform of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, the 28-year-old Democratic Socialist who defeated a titan of the New York Democratic machine in a primary Tuesday night. At one point, Hannity's production team decided to throw up the policies on the screen behind him. Except they failed to run the graphic through the normally rigorous process of Fox News scaremongerization and white-resentment optimization. They just put it up there, spin-free, and it looked...pretty reasonable?



Hannity seems to think these positions are self-evidently extreme. But:

Medicare for All has the support of 63 percent of registered voters.

Tuition-free public college has 63 percent support.

There isn't much polling on "housing as a human right," but there is strong majority support for rent control. We also already subsidize affordable housing, though far more money flows to higher-income homeowners through tax deductions.

A federal jobs guarantee is a new initiative, but one poll in May suggested it has 46 percent support. Another poll indicates strong majority support in every state.

Three-quarters of Americans support criminal justice reform.

There's not much polling on abolishing ICE, but in a Fox News poll last year, 83 percent supporteda pathway to citizenship for illegal immigrants.

Fox News' Sean Hannity Attacks Democratic Socialist Platform of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

@winb83 mentioned this in his recent thread but I thought it deserved it’s own thread. It’s hard to believe how far gone these people really are.

Damn near every poor/middle class trump voter would benefit from this agenda but they’ll continue to vote Republican because “socialism” and “entitlements” are dirty words.

I don’t even have any extra analysis or input. Just wanted to highlight the ridiculousness.

 

[Ya' Cousin Cleon]

That shyt should be a standard platform for Democrats, but they wanna touch dikks with Wall Street and Silicon Valley fukkheads.

 

[Snoopy Loops]

That shyt should be a standard platform for Democrats, but they wanna touch dikks with Wall Street and Silicon Valley fukkheads.

I am blind to this. Enlighten the unaware on this.

 

[storyteller]

She said she wants to turn it into an ad for her social media campaigning, but the reality is that her platform is going to be attacked from two sides. There are plenty of democrats that have said in the past and potentially will continue to say that this stuff is unaffordable and unrealistic. It will also have to deal with the small but impactful group of Dems that are so centrist you could mistake them for center-right; the idea being that they're in conservative districts and so they have to be somewhat conservative themselves to win elections. Then obviously the right wing echo chamber has already lined up to attack her and the platform she's proposing from Hannity to crazy Alex Jones to supposed to intellectual I guess Ben Shapiro. So everything she's proposing which should garner support is gonna have plenty of messaging against it.

Democrats need to choose: Are they the party of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez or the party of Michael Bloomberg?

 

[Slystallion]

You guys will throw her under the bus by her second term and be calling her a corporate shill just like Cory Booker

I remember everyone was saying Booker had next

She does seem like a nice person with good intentions but no need for the right wing to fear her and hype her up

 

[the cac mamba]

she needs to drop that abolishing ICE and letting people come here illegally bullshyt what's the first thing these right wing shytheads are attacking her on? that, of course

 

[Don Homer]

You guys will throw her under the bus by her second term and be calling her a corporate shill just like Cory Booker

I remember everyone was saying Booker had next

She does seem like a nice person with good intentions but no need for the right wing to fear her and hype her up

who was saying Booker had next? That nikka been trash

 

[Professor Emeritus]

I was when I saw Fox post that, even their rabid supporters gonna be seeing that and thinking, "Some of that sounds pretty good."

She said she wants to turn it into an ad for her social media campaigning, but the reality is that her platform is going to be attacked from two sides. There are plenty of democrats that have said in the past and potentially will continue to say that this stuff is unaffordable and unrealistic.

Which is going to further expose them.

She will be attacked from two sides just like Bernie was attacked from two sides. And Bernie still got massive support despite far less name recognition and funding, and was destroying Trump in head-to-head polls. The issue for Democrats is that their base has no faith in them right now and they're just trying to win on the Trump protest vote. She's gonna eat on the protest vote, the women's vote, the minority vote, the young people vote, AND the people who have lost faith in the Democratic leadership.

And she has time to build that too - right now all she's running for is her little district, and she'll probably stay there for a couple terms at least. Meanwhile, her positions are going to look more and more mainstream and centrist Democrats will be more and more exposed by opposing them.

she needs to drop that abolishing ICE and letting people come here illegally bullshyt what's the first thing these right wing shytheads are attacking her on? that, of course

Goddamn, please don't comment if you don't know what you're talking about.

Abolishing ICE has NOTHING to do with letting people come here illegally. ICE was created in 2002 as part of the Department of Homeland Security, before that there was no ICE.

19 ICE agents just sent a letter to the Director of Homeland Security explaining why ICE needed to be abolished.

More than a dozen ICE agents call for agency to be disbanded

CALLS TO ABOLISH ICE ARE BECOMING MORE MAINSTREAM. IS WASHINGTON READY FOR THE CONVERSATION?

The argument to shut ICE down revolves around its cultural ecology. The agency has become corrupted with a military mentality that doesn’t respect civilian oversight and has little effective oversight. Once an institution’s culture has metastasized, reforming it can become impossible, with the only solution to abolish it and disperse its various authorities elsewhere.

“What’s happened is as we’ve created ICE and given more and more authority with no accountability to ICE, in my opinion, it’s become a rogue agency,” Jayapal told The Intercept.

“ICE is now the second-largest criminal investigative agency in the United States, second only to the FBI. And the fact that they operate without the accountability of the Department of Justice is extremely concerning to us all,” she told The Intercept in May, explaining her position that it is better for the Department of Justice to oversee enforcement of those sort of matters — as it did under ICE’s predecessor, Immigration and Naturalization Services — rather than the Department of Homeland Security, which oversees ICE. Both DHS and ICE were created in the wake of the 9/11 attacks. (Ocasio-Cortez went in depth into why ICE should be abolished, and what that would mean for immigration enforcement, in an interview with Jeremy Scahill.)

 

[the cac mamba]

Goddamn, please don't comment if you don't know what you're talking about.

Abolishing ICE has NOTHING to do with letting people come here illegally. ICE was created in 2002 as part of the Department of Homeland Security, before that there was no ICE.

19 ICE agents just sent a letter to the Director of Homeland Security explaining why ICE needed to be abolished.

More than a dozen ICE agents call for agency to be disbanded

CALLS TO ABOLISH ICE ARE BECOMING MORE MAINSTREAM. IS WASHINGTON READY FOR THE CONVERSATION?

breh, i dont give a fukk if ICE exists or not. its a stupid thing to tout as your platform because it's so easy for the right to spin as "unamerican", etc, and it doesnt add anything to her fukkin platform because citizens are not negatively affected by it. people who are here illegally are, and they cant vote

but go ahead. keep running on this illegal bullshyt if you want

 

[Professor Emeritus]

breh, i dont give a fukk if ICE exists or not. its a stupid thing to tout as your platform because it's so easy for the right to spin as "unamerican", etc, and it doesnt add anything to her fukkin platform because citizens are not negatively affected by it. people who are here illegally are, and they cant vote

but go ahead. keep running on this illegal bullshyt if you want

But citizens ARE affected by it. That's like saying that only criminals are negatively affected by cops.

People who aren't criminals get harassed by ICE all the time. Citizens are negative affected by their family members being taken by ICE, by their friends being harassed, by their communities being intimidated and their businesses being raided. I dunno where you live and maybe you just have white friends where this shyt don't affect you, but there's a lot of American citizens who have to deal with it all the time. They've become as over-the-top or moreso than any other militaristic law enforcement agency.

Me and my two buddies were hanging out too close to the border back in May and had a jumpy-ass agent with both hands on his submachine gun trying to intimidate us into leaving. Little white breh had to be new because he was practically shaking while he talked to us and his voice cracked a little. I looked up the gun and it was this thing, H&K UMP .40 caliber submachine gun is what they using:

What the HELL is any American law-enforcement officer doing walking around on a regular patrol, no crimes reported, with both hands ready to fire on THAT thing?

That's some third-world shyt right there. No way I'm happy with pseudo-military patrolling our soil just because some people don't like the color of other people walking through it.

 

[the cac mamba]

But citizens ARE affected by it. That's like saying that only criminals are negatively affected by cops.

People who aren't criminals get harassed by ICE all the time. Citizens are negative affected by their family members being taken by ICE, by their friends being harassed, by their communities being intimidated and their businesses being raided. I dunno where you live and maybe you just have white friends where this shyt don't affect you, but there's a lot of American citizens who have to deal with it all the time. They've become as over-the-top or moreso than any other militaristic law enforcement agency.

Me and my two buddies were hanging out too close to the border back in May and had a jumpy-ass agent with both hands on his submachine gun trying to intimidate us into leaving. Little white breh had to be new because he was practically shaking while he talked to us and his voice cracked a little. I looked up the gun and it was this thing:

What the HELL is any American law-enforcement officer doing walking around on a regular patrol, no crimes reported, with both hands ready to fire on THAT thing?

That's some third-world shyt right there. No way I'm happy with pseudo-military patrolling our soil just because some people don't like the color of other people walking through it.

so abolish it after you get elected. breh im speaking as someone who wants to see her WIN people who want it abolished, she already has their vote anyway. people that are on the fence get turned off by this illegal bullshyt

am i wrong about that

 

[Secure Da Bag]

she needs to drop that abolishing ICE and letting people come here illegally bullshyt what's the first thing these right wing shytheads are attacking her on? that, of course

https://edition.cnn.com/videos/poli...ia-ocasio-cortez-abolish-ice-newsroom-sot-vpx. cnn (space needed because link isn't working properly)

She explains it pretty well. Basically abolish ICE and replace it with something that's not extra-judicial in nature (ex. a competent INS).

You guys will throw her under the bus by her second term and be calling her a corporate shill just like Cory Booker

I remember everyone was saying Booker had next

How Cory Booker went from progressive hero to traitor in under 2 days

This article explains why Booker is no longer next. Basically, Booker voted on behalf of Big Pharma (keep drugs priced high and prevent Americans from buying same drugs from Canada for cheap) because his campaign was funded by Big Pharma. So his rep took a beating for that.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

so abolish it after you get elected. breh im speaking as someone who wants to see her WIN people who want it abolished, she already has their vote anyway. people that are on the fence get turned off by this illegal bullshyt

am i wrong about that

Do you think she's not going to win her election?

She ain't going to be running for president until 2028 at the earliest. I'm sure she's hoping to mainstream anti-ICE sentiment long before then. Heck, I'm assuming that they're hoping they succeed in getting ICE abolished long before then. And people like her are gonna be the ones who have to normalize the position first before the centrists and leaders can take it on.

 

[the cac mamba]

Do you think she's not going to win her election?

She ain't going to be running for president until 2028 at the earliest. I'm sure she's hoping to mainstream anti-ICE sentiment long before then. Heck, I'm assuming that they're hoping they succeed in getting ICE abolished long before then. And people like her are gonna be the ones who have to normalize the position first before the centrists and leaders can take it on.

fair enough its frustrating to see the dems take on what i see as a negative strategy nationally, idk

 

[ineedsleep212]

She said she wants to turn it into an ad for her social media campaigning, but the reality is that her platform is going to be attacked from two sides. There are plenty of democrats that have said in the past and potentially will continue to say that this stuff is unaffordable and unrealistic. It will also have to deal with the small but impactful group of Dems that are so centrist you could mistake them for center-right; the idea being that they're in conservative districts and so they have to be somewhat conservative themselves to win elections. Then obviously the right wing echo chamber has already lined up to attack her and the platform she's proposing from Hannity to crazy Alex Jones to supposed to intellectual I guess Ben Shapiro. So everything she's proposing which should garner support is gonna have plenty of messaging against it.

Democrats need to choose: Are they the party of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez or the party of Michael Bloomberg?

The premise of that article is hilarious. Especially when you have shyt like this.