Fox Sports’ US World Cup coverage is an unmissable abomination

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FOX is mad the World cup is during football season so they don't give a SINGLE fukk

Their coverage for Russia was just as bad, only difference is that they didn't put as many games on FS1 and had postgame coverage right after the last game. Commentary, presentation, everything was just as bad.
 

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i watched one of the games on fox they were late returning from half and almost missed a goal forgot what game it was

thank goodness I can watch the itv/bbc coverage
 

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This.

I honestly think this type of "critique" happens every world cup by gatekeeping soccer lovers in the media. I don't mind Rob much at all and the commentators aren't completely horrid. It's a C/C- broadcast.

I can see that. For as much good work stateside soccer fans/voices have done in increasing the sport's profile, they routinely fail to realize that one of the toughest barriers for the sport is the fans themselves. Unfortunately, for the average person, the loudest voice in the room supporting soccer is the type of person that wants to shyt on someone for stuff like saying a team tied the game up instead of saying they scored an equalizer, or calling it a field instead of a pitch.

They forget that for companies like Fox, if they're looking at 15 million people watching a USMNT match for example, there's literally no way that the majority of that audience is people who are well versed in the sport. There are a lot of people in the audience that NEED someone to contextualize things. Now, if Fox was smart, they'd ride the alternate broadcast wave, and see about having studio and game coverage geared toward the more savvy fan.

And they been getting chyrons and lower thirds wrong too. You are right.

Fam, in you pointing out the nitpicking, you are nitpicking. That is one passage in an article about them not talking about the issues around the Qatar bid, barely touching on the Iran-US storyline where the USSF initiated the hostility, and commentators are genuinely being awful in their respect for pronunciations. Even more, a guy like Landon Donovan is sleepwalking through matches.

But that's my point, though. That specific bit of criticism is completely out of place with the rest of the article in tone, content, and even validity.

They had a full clip of completely valid criticisms, because overall, the broadcast package absolutely IS shyt. Landon Donovan has always had the personality of a piece of fukking drywall, and sucks. Alexi Lalas has been a sack of shyt since the 90s, and I can't believe either of them will ever have anything truly interesting to say, regardless of how much Lalas may think himself a provocateur. Them refusing to acknowledge the Qatari fukkery, even in a passing statement of the facts is cowardly. These are all great points that they could've easily gone in on even MORE. But switching gears to criticize Fox for doing what gets drilled into students' heads almost immediately in broadcasting/communications school (make the subject relatable) is unnecessary and silly.
 

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Right, but there's a difference between talking to the audience like they're dumb, and just using relatable sports terms they're already familiar with, or using a state they've heard of for reference.

Y'all gotta remember that when it comes to events like the World Cup, the assumption is that it's one of the few times when the average sports viewer is actually in the minority of the audience, and coverage will always be crafted in accordance.

Might be a US thing, because every time I watch a game on a european broadcast (mostly french) they don't really cater to casuals. They talk tactics (of which I don't understand anything), past competitions, national tournaments, coaching, etc.
 

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Might be a US thing, because every time I watch a game on a european broadcast (mostly french) they don't really cater to casuals. They talk tactics (of which I don't understand anything), past competitions, national tournaments, coaching, etc.

It absolutely is a US thing. Gotta remember that over here, Soccer will float somewhere between third and fifth in terms of popularity, depending on the usual variables. In Europe, it's a lot safer to assume the audience is familiar, so it's way easier for them to get into tactics and whatnot.

It's just like the NFL broadcast packages here in the US are actually really heavy (probably too heavy, in my opinion) on jargon and specific terminology, because they know that most of the audience has some familiarity. Just a regional difference.
 

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All I'm gonna say is that network TV does shyt like this in most places every time there's a major sporting event. The analysis and broadcasting for the Olympics or any time they show basketball is hilarious pedestrian and treating you like it's the first time you heard of the sport. I understand it, but of course it ain't the best way to consume it when you know about the sport.

It's kind of funny how in the case of south america, ESPN is THE place to get serious and well thought out coverage of any sport imaginable. Everything else pales in comparison and in some cases is down right embarrassing.
 

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All they have to do is STFU and let them play. Name the players name on passes and let the game flow.
adding all this uneeded dumb shyt - " His dad left him as a child " " they have known each other since they were kids"
They have to attach some emotional story to every fukking player. lol its whack.
just let them play bro
 

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Might be a US thing, because every time I watch a game on a european broadcast (mostly french) they don't really cater to casuals. They talk tactics (of which I don't understand anything), past competitions, national tournaments, coaching, etc.
It absolutely is a US thing. Gotta remember that over here, Soccer will float somewhere between third and fifth in terms of popularity, depending on the usual variables. In Europe, it's a lot safer to assume the audience is familiar, so it's way easier for them to get into tactics and whatnot.

It's just like the NFL broadcast packages here in the US are actually really heavy (probably too heavy, in my opinion) on jargon and specific terminology, because they know that most of the audience has some familiarity. Just a regional difference.
Oh, it's not a US thing at all. Talking about a sport that's not mainstream to a mainstream audience always leads to shytty coverage. I guess fútbol is more glaring because of how popular it is, but the same shyt y'all enduring with FOX and fútbol could be said about any other sport in any non-ESPN network (in the case of south america).

The only sport I've seen presented well on network TV/not ESPN is Formula 1 and car racing in general. Anything else fukking sucks if you know the sport.
 

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Oh, it's not a US thing at all. Talking about a sport that's not mainstream to a mainstream audience always leads to shytty coverage. I guess fútbol is more glaring because of how popular it is, but the same shyt y'all enduring with FOX and fútbol could be said about any other sport in any non-ESPN network (in the case of south america).

Yep, we're basically saying the same thing. "Mainstream" is different depending on where you are. I imagine there are some NFL broadcasts in South America that are ROUGH.
 

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Yep, we're basically saying the same thing. "Mainstream" is different depending on where you are. I imagine there are some NFL broadcasts in South America that are ROUGH.
NFL is bad even on cable when it's not ESPN handling it. I've legit heard/seen "I don't get why they are running so much" lead to a playaction pass that works and the same motherfukker go ":ohhh: ohhh that's why" plenty of times :mjlol:
 

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Typical tacky Fox coverage. That channel should be relegated to Simpsons and Cops re-runs. ITV/BBC's coverage is light years better

Everyone‘s coverage of the world competition is better than ours, we fukking suck when it coming to just showing the damn product. The Olympics is frustrating as hell to watch
 

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It absolutely is a US thing. Gotta remember that over here, Soccer will float somewhere between third and fifth in terms of popularity, depending on the usual variables. In Europe, it's a lot safer to assume the audience is familiar, so it's way easier for them to get into tactics and whatnot.

It's just like the NFL broadcast packages here in the US are actually really heavy (probably too heavy, in my opinion) on jargon and specific terminology, because they know that most of the audience has some familiarity. Just a regional difference.

Third? :mjlol:

Soccer probably loses to Nascar and Golf in America. So no way does it crack the top 4 majors.
 

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Third? :mjlol:

Soccer probably loses to Nascar and Golf in America. So no way does it crack the top 4 majors.

Yeah, maybe I'm overestimating the decline of baseball and hockey. But there probably are pockets of the country where it's top three. They make it seem like they're crazy about soccer in the Pacific northwest, for example.
 
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