Foxconn Replacing Workers With Robots

[babylon1]

So say everyone jumps on that wave. Who will pay for it? The # of activities people WANT to do that doesn't require someone else to work to make it possible is pretty damn small

And even outside of that, basic shyt like food, police, water, electricity etc require people to work.

So Im not really sure why u feel some people should get to do whatever they want at the expense of others. Unless Im missing something

who pays? the people with all the money. the cabal that runs the world.

people will still work if they want spending money beyond necessities. if they want kids. if they want to travel. go to a sports game, buy the new xbox

 

[Rarely-Wrong Liggins]

We should give them jobs

Well, a good place to start would be to cease the automation and outsourcing of jobs. I mean, that could help. If those two things weren't proceeding at such an alarming pace amidst already high unemployment and income inequality there wouldn't need to be talk of a guaranteed minimum income.

 

[Wild self]

So say everyone jumps on that wave. Who will pay for it? The # of activities people WANT to do that doesn't require someone else to work to make it possible is pretty damn small

And even outside of that, basic shyt like food, police, water, electricity etc require people to work.

So Im not really sure why u feel some people should get to do whatever they want at the expense of others. Unless Im missing something

Technology is advancing beyond of what most can comprehend.

 

[Wild self]

Well, a good place to start would be to cease the automation and outsourcing of jobs. I mean, that could help. If those two things weren't proceeding at such an alarming pace amidst already high unemployment and income inequality there wouldn't need to be talk of a guaranteed minimum income.

cease automation would mean stop the progress of technology.

 

[Rarely-Wrong Liggins]

cease automation would mean stop the progress of technology.

Are you serious right now?

 

[Wild self]

Are you serious right now?

Its true. If you want people to sacrifice their smartphones, their laptops, their GPS cars for a simpler life of the 20th century, then automation wouldn't be a problem. Lets face it, the age of the old lifestyle BEEN over. We gotta prepare for the future.

 

[Rarely-Wrong Liggins]

Its true. If you want people to sacrifice their smartphones, their laptops, their GPS cars for a simpler life of the 20th century, then automation wouldn't be a problem. Lets face it, the age of the old lifestyle BEEN over. We gotta prepare for the future.

Bleeding edge technology is not dependent upon replacing a clerk with a fukking kiosk.

 

[Wild self]

Bleeding edge technology is not dependent upon replacing a clerk with a fukking kiosk.

A lot of skilled jobs also need fewer workers because of the improved tools that they are working with.

 

[IAmGettingAMailOrderBride]

Robots can't cook, can do landscaping, can play basketball



A professor told me with new developments and such there will be more sub jobs and such

 

[babylon1]

profits over people, mr. liggins.

it is the capitalist ethos

 

[Yuzo]

If anything, it's news that Foxconn has waited so long.

thats the point. the significant thing to note is the cost of automation competes with the cost of outsourced labor. this demonstrates that even outsourcing labor is becoming obsolete. this is a step forward. maybe now jobs to oversee the robots can return back here. think of it that way.

 

[DEAD7]

thats the point. the significant thing to note is the cost of automation competes with the cost of outsourced labor. this demonstrates that even outsourcing labor is becoming obsolete. this is a step forward. maybe now jobs to oversee the robots can return back here. think of it that way.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Well, a good place to start would be to cease the automation and outsourcing of jobs. I mean, that could help. If those two things weren't proceeding at such an alarming pace amidst already high unemployment and income inequality there wouldn't need to be talk of a guaranteed minimum income.

There are other ways. Again people are not asking why basics are becoming so expensive, etc. etc. Not even going to get into it because I've said it a million times, and the only conclusion people want to arrive at is to take from the rich. shyt's corny and boring.

 

[Rarely-Wrong Liggins]

There are other ways. Again people are not asking why basics are becoming so expensive, etc. etc. Not even going to get into it because I've said it a million times, and the only conclusion people want to arrive at is to take from the rich. shyt's corny and boring.

People have asked that, several times. But I'll humor you; Why are the basics so expensive and what do you think the solutions are?

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

People have asked that, several times. But I'll humor you; Why are the basics so expensive and what do you think the solutions are?

$10/hr would be decent if not for expensive housing and healthcare. If homes were ~$100K instead of $200K 2 people making $10/hr could get by. It wouldn't be glamorous but it would be manageable. The cost side of the equation is a huge part of the problem.

Nor would, again, it address the myriad of skyrocketing basic needs costs people are facing. What good is 1 $8,000 raise when healthcare costs are growing at 10% annually indefinitely? nikkas need to stop looking at the next man's plate, CEO pay is far from any kind of priority in issues facing Americans... it's just a proxy for jealousy

People focusing on minimum wage are looking at the wrong piece of the problem

The minimum wage issue is a symptom of a general failure of our economic system. If a muhfugga has AIDS you don't cure it by telling them to eat more and take Vitamin C immune boosting supplements. But that is basically what this focus on minimum wage is about. You have to identify the cause of the problem, and from there all of its results and symptoms will be understood and more easily solvable.

$10/hr sounds crazy when healthcare, housing and and higher education are outpacing inflation 2-3x. But guess what. Doubling, tripling, quadrupling minimum wage one time is just a bandaid over a bullet wound. Eventually the cost side of the equation will catch back up, and people will say "how can a family live on $100 an hour" "$1000 an hour" etc etc. The country needs to get back to a place where our economic system is generating wealth for the majority of the population... arbitrary one time transfers of wealth reasoned out in an ideological/logical vacuum are not the way to do that.

If everyone had access to affordable healthcare, free higher education and housing that wasn't inflated by the inherent subsidies of GSEs minimum wage would not be an issue. Healthcare could and should cost like 1/2 what it does today, and can have its growth reined in by regulation. Houses would prob cost 1/2 what they do today if the govt didn't own/guarantee 70% of mortgages, essentially removing 70% of the incentive for loan originators to display any kind of long term thinking when generating mortgages. Higher education would prob cost 1/4 what it does today if govts werent writing banks and colleges blank checks on the backs of students' future earnings. So this whittling down of all our complex economic problems down to one simple, incorrect, pitchfork friendly talking point is pretty fukking annoying and counterproductuve IMO. There's a lot of needless waste and corporatism that is the real driver of our economic issues. This minimum wage bullshyt is a distraction and a misunerstanding of the situation.

Anything else?