Look you're still doing it, painting it as some mutually exclusive zero sum game. If Harris deviated from Biden's stance on Israel she likely would've won and been able to protect our rights here at home, the data supports that conclusion. Not to mention that the US and the conflict in Gaza are inextricably connected since our tax dollars pay for the genocide and if it ceased those tax dollars could be repurposed to help Americans. So to act like Pro-Palestine people are hyper focusing on some irrelevant foreign conflict at the expense of the rights of Americans is simply false.
Bro, its 2025. Harris lost. You keep bringing her up. She lost. Ok, now what? Did our tax money stop going to Israel?
US moves to expedite delivery of $4 billion in military aid to Israel
Rubio says Trump has approved $12 billion in arms sales to Israel since taking office, claiming Biden had imposed a ‘partial arms embargo’ on Israel
Rubio says Trump has approved $12 billion in arms sales to Israel since taking office, claiming Biden had imposed a 'partial arms embargo' on Israel
www.timesofisrael.com
Mind you, the majority of what is given to Isreal in aid is military armaments, NOT cash, so no, its not going to be repurposed to help Americans. That never seems to be the goal of America, especially when it comes to Republicans in office, who now give us this nugget:
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/04/07/hegseth-trump-1-trillion-defense-budget-00007147
So not only are we increasing military spending under this regime, but he is doing it next to Netanyahu...who you might recall, is conducting a genocide. Even Rubio says there was a partial embargo in place. Biden should have been harder on them. Ok cool, he is no longer in power. Now what?
This is the false equivalency you constantly fall back on, where any criticism of Democrats = “soft on Trump”. It's lazy, dishonest, and it shuts down actual accountability. I’m not pro-Trump just because I’m not willing to blindly defend a party that helped create the conditions for his return. You can oppose Trump and demand better from Democrats. In fact, that’s the only way to break the cycle we’re stuck in. You’re coming at me like I’m denying the authoritarian slide we’re in right now, I’m not. I’ve never said things aren’t worse under Trump. I’m saying we didn’t get here randomly, and you can’t talk about what to do now without being honest about how we got here.
You are now acting like a victim. I never even mentioned being "soft on Trump." I am not even asking you as an individual anything. Reread all of my comments. For those whose SOLE issue, the one that swayed them the most, why protest only in places where the people likely agree with you? Bernie has been calling for embargos and Elie Wiesel Genocide and Preventions Act of 2018. I'm not saying they CAN'T protest in Democratic/left-leaning spaces, I am saying why? Also, Bernie is a minority Senator from Vermont. He is not in the party in power and anything meant to help end the conflict would have to make it out of the Senate and be brought up by Majority house speaker Mike Johnson. Bernie is trying to rally people about the oligarchic encroachment, the very same oligarchs who empower the kind of politics that make the USA side with Isreal even when they do shyt like this.
Lastly, much like the protesters did with his speech, you have turned what I said as a critique to this bombardment on one issue (a terrible genocide) when there is a broader issue that must be confronted ASAP which is fascism, into me mysteriously critiquing you. If Palestine is your red line, fine. If the majority party does not want to end the conflict, it does not end. The people have to push back. Cancer and Aids are both terrible but you would not pop into a cancer conference saying "What about Aids?" just because both issues are covered by medical professionals.
For one, plenty of Pro Palestine protesters are protesting Trump as well, almost 100 people were arrested at Trump tower for protesting for Mahmoud Khalil, so that's another false equivalency. You keep saying “stop talking about Kamala,” but I talk about her because we need to understand how power was lost before we can even talk about getting it back. Pretending like she and Biden’s policies had no role in this collapse is revisionism. It’s not about bringing up the past out of spite, it’s about not repeating it.
Dawg, the fact that pro Palestine protesters are being arrested is 1000% why the focus should be majority on deposing the kind of regime who would do this. What false equivalency are you talking about? I did not equivocate anything. This last tidbit made my point. While Democrats tried to skirt the issue, specifically Kamala, and outright ignore Palestine in the weeks leading up to election, they took a calculation and chose wrong. Ok cool, they lost. Now what?
When you bring up Kamala, understand, what she eats does not make us shyt anymore. There is a growing appetite for real progressivism and the best thing to do is actually participate and foster that. Obama-era politics is dead. You said I pretend their policies did not lead to this? Where? Thats YOUR perspective, one I don't disagree with, but again, it takes away the main point: they are not in power. People are searching for leadership and Democrats have low favorability across the board. So why still bark up the tree of people who likely agree with you? The first amendment has taken a nose-dive since January 20th 2025 and its no coincidence that it happens to be with the very person Kamala and Democrats were warning us about. Fine, America largely chose to not vote or to go his way. It's April 15, 2025. Now what are we going to do? If its bumrush your allies, and before you say it NO I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT YOU SPECIFICALLY, you have to consider the people you are trying to talk to may be concerned with issues they can see right in their front yard such as:
-Less civil rights than they had literally 3 months ago
-people being disappeared for supporting Palestine
-Looming food shortages due to the upending of farm labor
-Looming increases in housing prices due to price gouging (which this President wont resist and he has gutted the agencies) AND the labor for building new homes being deport or scared into hiding
-Social safety nets failing by design
-Rising prices on everything due to the Geopolitical order since WW2 being torn to shreds
-Rampant job losses due to disinvestment and economic uncertainty
—random folks being sent to El Salvador to a prison that NOBODY gets out of and no concept of habeas corpus
If people in America are on the verge of losing everything in a time where everything is going up in cost, healthcare is more expensive, retirees suddenly find themselves unable to retire, veterans are losing their livelihoods, etc, does bumrushing these folks about a land they don't live in for a war they don't personally care for under a government they don't like sound like a productive idea?
you a 100% can blame the electorate, and not even just Palestine, everybody and they mama thought the war in Iraq was some bullshyt and Bush still got re-elected
