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Free will could be the result of 'background noise' in the brain, study suggests.

Scientists at the University of California, Davis, found that decisions could be predicted based on patterns of brain activity.


The concept of free will could be little more than the result of background noise in the brain, according to a recent study.

It has previously been suggested that our perceived ability to make autonomous choices is an illusion – and now scientists from the Center for Mind and Brain at the University of California, Davis, have found that free will may actually be the result of electrical activity in the brain.

According to the research, published in the Journal of Cognitive Neuroscience, decisions could be predicted based on the pattern of brain activity immediately before a choice was made.

Volunteers in the study were asked to sit in front of a screen and focus on its central point while their brains’ electrical activity was recorded. They were then asked to make a decision to look either left or right when a cue symbol appeared on the screen, and then to report their decision.

The cue to look left or right appeared at random intervals, so the volunteers could not consciously or unconsciously prepare for it.

The brain has a normal level of so-called background noise; the researchers found that the pattern of activity in the brain in the seconds before the cue symbol appeared - before the volunteers knew they were going to make a choice - could predict the likely outcome of the decision.

“The state of the brain right before presentation of the cue determines whether you will attend to the left or to the right,” Bengson said.

And in an email to Live Science, Bengson said: “[Though] purposeful intentions, desires and goals drive our decisions in a linear cause-and-effect kind of way, our finding shows that our decisions are also influenced by neural noise within any given moment.

“This random firing, or noise, may even be the carrier upon which our consciousness rides, in the same way that radio static is used to carry a radio station.”

This latest experiment is an extension of psychologist Benjamin Libet’s 1970s research into the brain’s electrical activity immediately before a decision.

Libet asked volunteers to press a switch in response to a visual signal - but whereas he had to rely on the participants telling him when they made their choice, Bengson explained that the random nature of the new study meant that "we know people aren't making the decision in advance".

"It inserts a random effect that allows us to be freed from simple cause and effect," Bengson said.


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/s...oise-in-the-brain-study-suggests-9553678.html
 

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Obviously it's an illusion to dumb fukks. Free will has never existed. Environment shapes EVERYTHING. You are born with genetics xyz, these genetics are NOT controlled by you nor your parents/ancestors, but instead the environment 100%. Then as you are born, the environment tweaks/shapes these genetics as well. What you think is free will is the result of the environment tricking you into thinking YOU are deciding to do activity abc, but it's truly the environment.
 

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Obviously it's an illusion to dumb fukks. Free will has never existed. Environment shapes EVERYTHING. You are born with genetics xyz, these genetics are NOT controlled by you nor your parents/ancestors, but instead the environment 100%. Then as you are born, the environment tweaks/shapes these genetics as well. What you think is free will is the result of the environment tricking you into thinking YOU are deciding to do activity abc, but it's truly the environment.

You obviously didn't read the article. plus you're a troll. :camby:

What it's saying is, they can accurately predict what a person will do based on the state of their brain immediately before given a choice.
 

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annnnnnndd this is why i havnt been kicking it in hl lately... :dwillhuh:


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Sounds like they are trying to give atheists some ammo. Then again did they have the free will to do that study..........
 

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The brain has a normal level of so-called background noise; the researchers found that the pattern of activity in the brain in the seconds before the cue symbol appeared - before the volunteers knew they were going to make a choice - could predict the likely outcome of the decision.

I wonder how well they could predict the outcome. Interesting nonetheless. I also wonder how much these findings could be extended to other things i.e. decisions with more possible outcomes, or if this background activity increases before deciding to do intense things like saying something out loud in public.

As long as the pre-decision brain activity doesn't contradict what we actually decide to do :manny:
 

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I wonder how well they could predict the outcome. Interesting nonetheless. I also wonder how much these findings could be extended to other things i.e. decisions with more possible outcomes, or if this background activity increases before deciding to do intense things like saying something out loud in public.

As long as the pre-decision brain activity doesn't contradict what we actually decide to do :manny:

I wondered the same thing, it didnt mention the rate of their accuracy. :ohhh:

Also this was only for a simple decision, looking left or right. But with time it could turn into being able to predict much more complicated things.

Honestly I think the underlying point of the article, is once they figure out how to manipulate the pre-decision brain activity... They may be able to control peoples actions without them even knowing. :ohhh:


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Sounds like they are trying to give atheists some ammo. Then again did they have the free will to do that study..........

:stopitslime:

What it's saying is, they can accurately predict what a person will do based on the state of their brain immediately before given a choice.

I'm unfamiliar with you as a poster, but if you wish to troll about religion, free speech is that way :camby:
 

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What it's saying is, they can accurately predict what a person will do based on the state of their brain immediately before given a choice.

I'm unfamiliar with you as a poster, but if you wish to troll about religion free speech is that way :camby:

My point is this is a basic experiment about left and right. By next week it might be on cnn.com with an entire different story line based upon who funded the study. I don't troll about Religion and I don't even have to bring it in here.
 

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My point is this is a basic experiment about left and right. By next week it might be on cnn.com with an entire different story line based upon who funded the study. I don't troll about Religion and I don't even have to bring it in here.

who gives a fukk about cnn.com :mjlol:

and you did come in here trolling about religion on a subject that has absolutely nothing to do with it... :umad:

but you're not capable of seeing the big picture so let me lay it out for you. they are on the verge of manipulating peoples behavior based on altering their brain states. my guess would be the government is light years more advanced in this. our actions could very well be controlled by external stimuli, the extent of which we have no idea :takedat:
 

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Free will could be the result of 'background noise' in the brain, study suggests.

Scientists at the University of California, Davis, found that decisions could be predicted based on patterns of brain activity.


The concept of free will could be little more than the result of background noise in the brain, according to a recent study.

It has previously been suggested that our perceived ability to make autonomous choices is an illusion – and now scientists from the Center for Mind and Brain at the University of California, Davis, have found that free will may actually be the result of electrical activity in the brain.

According to the research, published in the Journal of Cognitive Neuroscience, decisions could be predicted based on the pattern of brain activity immediately before a choice was made.

Volunteers in the study were asked to sit in front of a screen and focus on its central point while their brains’ electrical activity was recorded. They were then asked to make a decision to look either left or right when a cue symbol appeared on the screen, and then to report their decision.

The cue to look left or right appeared at random intervals, so the volunteers could not consciously or unconsciously prepare for it.

The brain has a normal level of so-called background noise; the researchers found that the pattern of activity in the brain in the seconds before the cue symbol appeared - before the volunteers knew they were going to make a choice - could predict the likely outcome of the decision.

“The state of the brain right before presentation of the cue determines whether you will attend to the left or to the right,” Bengson said.


And in an email to Live Science, Bengson said: “[Though] purposeful intentions, desires and goals drive our decisions in a linear cause-and-effect kind of way, our finding shows that our decisions are also influenced by neural noise within any given moment.

“This random firing, or noise, may even be the carrier upon which our consciousness rides, in the same way that radio static is used to carry a radio station.”

This latest experiment is an extension of psychologist Benjamin Libet’s 1970s research into the brain’s electrical activity immediately before a decision.

Libet asked volunteers to press a switch in response to a visual signal - but whereas he had to rely on the participants telling him when they made their choice, Bengson explained that the random nature of the new study meant that "we know people aren't making the decision in advance".

"It inserts a random effect that allows us to be freed from simple cause and effect," Bengson said.


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/s...oise-in-the-brain-study-suggests-9553678.html
this has nothing to do with "free will" :mjlol:
 
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