Free will doesn't exist

"Free will doesn't exist"

  • Could be true

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  • No chance

    Votes: 4 36.4%
  • I think, therefore I PAWG... Tis the first, last, the only freedom I need in this world. Avast!

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Mowgli

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Lets imagine they proved that free will doesn't exist in a way that totally satisfies everyone with the explanation. From the nerds to the simpletons, religious to hedonists - everyone is now in agreement that they are little more than sentient meat puppets.

What happens next on The Coli? What about you personally? How would this make you think or would there be no point because you won't be doing anything other than reading the script that is fed and fooling yourself into believing you thought of it as you stroll around this big ass Truman Show in outer space whilst being pulled by invisible strings.


Whats going on inside your head as you consider this? Remember, for the sake of the thought experiment, everyone agrees with the proof that free will doesn't exist. What are the implications for the human race if this was proven to be the case?
God will judge you. You made choices and you need to repent brother. Come home or be lost to your own warped delusions
 
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If free will doesn't exist, then it's meaningless to create a thread convincing people that free will doesn't exist, as the intended audience's belief in free will is arrived at deterministically.
Also, if they are 'determined' it does exist, yet you convince them that it doesn't, that would prove 'Determinism' to be false.

Noam Chomsky, is that you?​
 

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I ain't got much to say but I recently listened to a whole Oxford University lecture on this in regards to Friedrich Nietzsche's ideas of free will. Was super interesting the thing I picked up the most was that in regards to free will was that he believed people enjoy being cruel to others if it allows them to have power over them without any ramifications for doing so. I immediately thought of how this happens in the workplace with management :francis:
 
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I ain't got much to say but I recently listened to a whole Oxford University lecture on this in regards to Friedrich Nietzsche's ideas of free will. Was super interesting the thing I picked up the most was that in regards to free will was that he believed people enjoy being cruel to others if it allows them to have power over them without any ramifications for doing so. I immediately thought of how this happens in the workplace with management :francis:
i think it depends on peoples natures

the old saying by Abraham Lincoln was "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man’s character, give him power,”

to me, people who try to deny free will are ultimately crippled by the idea that either:

1. they are not all-powerful
2. they believe if something is more powerful than them, then the game is rigged

but both of these conclusions are logical and spiritual fallacies built on the idea that power is something we inherently have. In the grand scheme of this amazing reality, there clearly are very low and very high levels of everything. Its safe to assume we are in feed back with all of it even if we dont realize it.
 

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You are going to get the religious rubes and numbskulls upset with your post but you are correct.

At the end of the day, free will does not exist

Casuality has dictated our lives from the very creation of the universe


Was this posted by your free will or was this post hard wired into your DNA so you had to make this post?
 
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Was this posted by your free will or was this post hard wired into your DNA so you had to make this post?

:francis: I dont think you understand the concept of "free will"

Please study and read up on it some more.

It extends well beyond the nature of dna


You should look into casuality and determinalism
 

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:francis: I dont think you understand the concept of "free will"

Please study and read up on it some more.

It extends well beyond the nature of dna


You should look into casuality and determinalism
You didn't answer the question so should I assume I'm replying to a pre set timed response? Data in.... data out?
 
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