From 1996-1999 Mannie Fresh has the best run of any producer in rap

[Bugsmoran]

Rza 93 - 97

 

[Playaz Eyez]

your dap-whoring

When you have nothing left to say cause you know it's true

 

[No Hook]

Give me one classic album produced entirely by Swizz Beats. Same for Trackmasters.

Swizz, Trackmasters and Organized Noize were more diverse In their beat making. Swizz doesn't have any classic albums he produced entirely by himself. Neither does Fresh
He has way more hits though. Thats a fact.

Swizz Top Prdouction Billboard 100
Ruff Ryders Anthem US 94
Party Up US 27
Good Times US 22
Hotel US 4
Bring Em Out US 9
Check On It US 1
Touch It US 16
Ring The Alarm US 11

Trackmasters Top Production Billboard 100
Juicy US 27
Street Dreams US 22
If I Ruled The World US 53
Getting Jiggy Wi It US 1
Horse and Carriage US 41
Fiesta US 6

Pull up Mannys top production discography. It ain't fukking wit none of these

And Manny was making beats longer than both

 

[Playaz Eyez]

Most of those are some pretty awful singles listed there, especially the Swizz ones. And Mannie Fresh produced almost exclusively for Cash Money his entire career, of course Swizz and Trackmasters would have more hits, they worked with everybody

 

[No Hook]

Most of those are some pretty awful singles listed there, especially the Swizz ones. And Mannie Fresh produced almost exclusively for Cash Money his entire career, of course Swizz and Trackmasters would have more hits, they worked with everybody

Mannie couldn't make a hit RnB song though.

Mannie wasn't on Cash Money his whole career either. I understand youre a south nikka but you gotta stop being bias

 

[JustCKing]

By this logic, Beats By The Pound>>>>>>. Especially during that period. There's 30-40 albums produced by them with 10-15 going platinum.

I'd put Timbaland over him during that period too.

 

[SirBiatch]

When you have nothing left to say cause you know it's true

I don't waste time with attention whores. I know you're desperate for acknowledgment but this is where it ends. Keep quoting if you must

 

[Playaz Eyez]

Mannie couldn't make a hit RnB song though.

Mannie wasn't on Cash Money his whole career either. I understand youre a south nikka but you gotta stop being bias

I'm trying to figure out exactly what the discussion is here. I said Mannie Fresh produced almost exclusively for Cash Money his entire career. Where exactly did I say he was on Cash Money his whole career? I understand you can't read, but damn

Plus, it seems like this is almost a sales >>> music discussion. I don't care that Swizz has more hits, his production style is dated as shyt outside of a handful of early stuff. I bet you equate a rapper making more money to being the better artist

 

[AlbertPullhoez]

I'm trying to figure out exactly what the discussion is here. I said Mannie Fresh produced almost exclusively for Cash Money his entire career. Where exactly did I say he was on Cash Money his whole career? I understand you can't read, but damn

Plus, it seems like this is almost a sales >>> music discussion. I don't care that Swizz has more hits, his production style is dated as shyt outside of a handful of early stuff. I bet you equate a rapper making more money to being the better artist

I can accept people saying RZA, Dre.

But Swizz Beatz

 

[zayk35]

From 96 to 2000

Chopper City
Uptown 4 Life
All on U Vol. 1 & 2
How U Luv That Vol.1 & 2
Soulja Rags
Get It How U Live
400 Degrees
Guerilla Warfare
Chopper City In The Ghetto
I Got That Work
G-Code
That Block Is Hot

The majority of the beats on these albums are not only quality but classic, great and head of their time. Swizz can't hold a fukking candle to Fresh.

I own all those but his beats just never really did it for me overall...I'll admit he got some heat and he way better than "Swizz Casio"...but not in a dre /rza way

 

[No Hook]

I'm trying to figure out exactly what the discussion is here. I said Mannie Fresh produced almost exclusively for Cash Money his entire career. Where exactly did I say he was on Cash Money his whole career? I understand you can't read, but damn

Plus, it seems like this is almost a sales >>> music discussion. I don't care that Swizz has more hits, his production style is dated as shyt outside of a handful of early stuff. I bet you equate a rapper making more money to being the better artist

You admitted that Swizz and Trackmasters have more hits. They're also better producers too who could make more than a rap song

at you saying Swizz sound is more
dated. Manny was one demensional. At least Swizz could make more than just a rap song. No I don't equate to sales at being a better artist either. I was proving a point to @28 Gramz about classics.

 

[Playaz Eyez]

You admitted that Swizz and Trackmasters have more hits. They're also better producers too who could make more than a rap song

at you saying Swizz sound is more
dated. Manny was one demensional. At least Swizz could make more than just a rap song. No I don't equate to sales at being a better artist either. I was proving a point to @28 Gramz about classics.

I can name probably 8-10 CM albums thoroughly enjoyable from start to finish produced by Mannie. I can name 4 for Swizz Beats. Just cause Swizz places 15 different sounds on a beat doesn't make him "diverse" nor better. It also has nothing to do with me being from the south either (not even sure how you'd know that), cause Havoc & Alchemist >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Swizz Beats. I don't care if Swizz can "make more than just a rap song', he's a jack of all trades, and master of none. Again, you're equating producing for multiple genres for being better. You think Trackmasters and Swizz are better than Mannie just cause they produced Best Of Both Worlds, Unfinished Business, Pink Friday and some shyt from one of LL Cool J's worst albums???

 

[No Hook]

I can name probably 8-10 CM albums thoroughly enjoyable from start to finish produced by Mannie. I can name 4 for Swizz Beats. Just cause Swizz places 15 different sounds on a beat doesn't make him "diverse" nor better. It also has nothing to do with me being from the south either (not even sure how you'd know that), cause Havoc & Alchemist >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Swizz Beats. I don't care if Swizz can "make more than just a rap song', he's a jack of all trades, and master of none. Again, you're equating producing for multiple genres for being better. You think Trackmasters and Swizz are better than Mannie just cause they produced Best Of Both Worlds, Unfinished Business, Pink Friday and some shyt from one of LL Cool J's worst albums???

Ok. Enough said The majority of the people on this thread don't agree with you either.
I can make a Manny Fresh beat on my phone. He made bounce music. That's it. Keep thinking what you want to though

 

[Wacky D]

Mannie Fresh aint even better than Shock G, but somehow you're forcing him in that GOAT conversation

fresh BEEN in goat convos.

its tapered off in recent years but its nothing new.

 

[daboywonder2002]

Love Manny but this is so far from the truth. Top 10 would be about right. Timbaland, Swizz Premier, Organized Noise, Dr. Dre, Trackmasters, Havoc were all better producers back then. Even though some were groups. Edit: How could I forget the Hitmen

but the topic isn't who is the better producer- it's who had the best run. It's all about personal taste. Swizz definitely had a nice run though.