From a consumer standpoint: Macklemore can't be hiphop

[RTF]

Eminem was so good and had crucial co-signs. Not to mention he's genuinely influential.... however since his comeback he's barely hip-hop at all. His songs don't get urban radio spins but he's very respected.


Drake has been a big figure on urban radio, black discussion for 5 years. He may not be hip hop to you, or even black but he's important to the hip hop community.

Macklemore exists outside of a vacuum from the rest of rap (largely). Apparently some TDE members are on his album but nobody even knew and the people that know - don't care (his fans), No co-signs, crap, doesn't affect the culture at all unless he's taking awards.Get him out of here

 

[RTF]

You hear some of these new rappers... Wolfgang, Kendrick and you can hear the Eminem influence tbf. Maybe the Dre co-sign made west coast cats pay more attention as kids.

I'm not even a Drake fan tough like that but he's important to the culture.

 

[OG Talk]

so is there a supreme council that made up rules/regulations on what can be considered hip hop or something?

The Zulu Nation...


11 million members strong

 

[smokeurobinson]

We all agree that the biggest listeners of hiphop is black.

U lost me there...I coulda sworn 70% of all hip hop music was purchased by white folks. I remember the claim of how when Public Enemy stepped on stage with their pro Black music they looked out into an audience that was a sea of white.

 

[mozichrome]

The Zulu Nation...


11 million members strong

and who says folks have to follow these imaginary rules

 

[Uncle Phil 36]

who cares

 

[smokeurobinson]

The Zulu Nation...


11 million members strong

LMAO. The foundation that was laid down by the zulu nation has long been abandoned. If the original goal was to keep the kids away from gangs then that goal failed in the 2000's when the gang culture was accepted and embraced in Hip Hop. Lil Wayne throws up the B on the cover of Rolling Stones and KRS One the Teacha says Lil Wayne is Hip Hop....end of story.

 

[OG Talk]

and who says folks have to follow these imaginary rules

Nobody

I was just answering your orginal question there buddy..

 

[CrimsonTider]

U lost me there...I coulda sworn 70% of all hip hop music was purchased by white folks. I remember the claim of how when Public Enemy stepped on stage with their pro Black music they looked out into an audience that was a sea of white.

I'm not talking about purchases

I'm talking about people who listen to hiphop a majority of the time

 

[OG Talk]

LMAO. The foundation that was laid down by the zulu nation has long been abandoned. .

True...

 

[CrimsonTider]

Black people listen to rap more than any other race

What are you objecting to

so is there a supreme council that made up rules/regulations on what can be considered hip hop or something?

What does this have to do with. Anything I said?

 

[smokeurobinson]

I'm not talking about purchases

I'm talking about people who listen to hiphop a majority of the time

well then to answer your original question...No I dont agree. Numbers are used for signification. I cant say who's listening to what without numbers homie. Without numbers we're just assuming.

 

[CrimsonTider]

well then to answer your original question...No I dont agree. Numbers are used for signification. I cant say who's listening to what without numbers homie. Without numbers we're just assuming.

Ok breh.

This is not a debate

Rap on a large said is Made exclusively for black people

You can't come up with a segment of the population that listens to black rap artist more than black men and women

The idea that white people purchase more hiphop is logical fallacy that ignores certain truths

 

[smokeurobinson]

Ok breh.

This is not a debate

Rap on a large said is Made exclusively for black people

You can't come up with a segment of the population that listens to black rap artist more than black men and women

The idea that white people purchase more hiphop is logical fallacy that ignores certain truths

Logical fallacy? based on what? When I was in the Army....them whiteboys (who were the majority) were just as into Hip Hop as I was. I'll never forget this one kid who had every single release from No Limit. He had a whole CD book of just No Limit artists....even the sh*tty unknowns. I'll never forget how it was a bunch of whiteboys who kept asking to borrow my Dead Prez - Lets Get Free CD (Cant lie....some brothers asked as well...Now that I think of it that CD was my most borrowed CD ever).

 

[OG Talk]

I'm not talking about purchases

But yet you say in your title "from a CONSUMER standpoint"




I think you might not understand what the words consumer or purchases mean



Or you're just typing to give your fingers and thumbs a light work out