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When the fukk are we going to have some uncomfortable conversations about the direction of this team? :martin:
Quin has failed the team.

Dyson cashed in and is useless on offense.

KP is just 30 million sitting on the bench.

Onyeka expanding his game but is being run into the ground with the lack of size on this team

Luke plays more minutes than risacher at times.

Jalen don't give AF on defense

Tons of issues.


I would feel better if we just kept it simple and run the offense through Trae and Jalen PNR all game.

The offense is too chaotic with all the dribble handoffs leading to all the turnovers.
 

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So I asked Gemini this:

I want you to give me the Win-Loss record of the Atlanta Hawks when Trae Young is not playing in a game from the 2024-2025 season to today. December 29, 2025

And it came back with this:

Based on the data for the 2024-25 and 2025-26 seasons as of December 29, 2025, the Atlanta Hawks have actually performed remarkably well when Trae Young has been sidelined.

The total Win-Loss record for the Hawks without Trae Young during this period is 22–15.

Breakdown by Season​

SeasonHawks Record Without Trae YoungContext
2024–259–5Young appeared in 76 games, missing only 6. The team went 9-5 across the games he missed and the postseason play-in window.
2025–2613–10Young missed a significant stretch (22 games) due to a torn MCL. He returned to the lineup on December 18, 2025.
Total22–15 (.595)

Key Observations​

  • Defensive Identity: Analysts have noted a significant "identity shift" during Young’s absence in the 2025-26 season. The Hawks' defensive rating improved from 119.7 to 110.5 without him, as the team utilized more defensive-minded guards like Dyson Daniels and Nickeil Alexander-Walker.1


  • The "Ewing Theory" Debate: The Hawks' winning record without their superstar has sparked significant debate among fans and media regarding the team's half-court offense versus a more balanced, transition-heavy style that emerged while he was out.
  • Recent Status: As of today, December 29, 2025, Trae Young has returned to action but was recently listed as "Probable" due to a right quad contusion. He played in the back-to-back set against Miami and New York just before today's date.
 

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So I asked Gemini this:



And it came back with this:

Based on the data for the 2024-25 and 2025-26 seasons as of December 29, 2025, the Atlanta Hawks have actually performed remarkably well when Trae Young has been sidelined.

The total Win-Loss record for the Hawks without Trae Young during this period is 22–15.

Breakdown by Season​

SeasonHawks Record Without Trae YoungContext
2024–259–5Young appeared in 76 games, missing only 6. The team went 9-5 across the games he missed and the postseason play-in window.
2025–2613–10Young missed a significant stretch (22 games) due to a torn MCL. He returned to the lineup on December 18, 2025.
Total22–15 (.595)

Key Observations​

  • Defensive Identity: Analysts have noted a significant "identity shift" during Young’s absence in the 2025-26 season. The Hawks' defensive rating improved from 119.7 to 110.5 without him, as the team utilized more defensive-minded guards like Dyson Daniels and Nickeil Alexander-Walker.1


  • The "Ewing Theory" Debate: The Hawks' winning record without their superstar has sparked significant debate among fans and media regarding the team's half-court offense versus a more balanced, transition-heavy style that emerged while he was out.
  • Recent Status: As of today, December 29, 2025, Trae Young has returned to action but was recently listed as "Probable" due to a right quad contusion. He played in the back-to-back set against Miami and New York just before today's date.
we went 9-5 in 6 games without him? :what:

Breh we get it, you don't fukk with Trae but you just postin bullshyt now, move the fukk around with that shyt :camby:
 
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