Frozen Soundtrack about to push 2M, Hip-Hop needs a State of the Union Address

[Durrbrowski]

You cacs with these pointless threads. This shyt ain't hip hop.

 

[MiC]

Looking at 2014 so far rap has 4 out of the top 20 selling albums and 9 of the top 50...compare this to rock having 2 of the top 20 and 6 of the top 50, or country having 3 in the top 20 and 9 in the top 50... and it does not seem so bad at all in my opinion
ALBUM SALES JANUARY 1, 2014 TO APRIL 16, 2014

01 - 1,739,000 - FROZEN - Soundtrack
02 - 628,000 - BEYONCÉ - Beyoncé
03 - 520,000 - THE OUTSIDERS - Eric Church
04 - 485,000 - PURE HEROINE - Lorde
05 - 378,000 - NOW 49 - Various
06 - 338,000 - PRISM - Katy Perry
07 - 326,000 - THE MARSHALL MATHERS LP 2 - Eminem
08 - 324,000 - UNORTHODOX JUKEBOX - Bruno Mars
09 - 308,000 - NIGHT VISIONS - Imagine Dragons
10 - 302,000 - MASTERMIND - Rick Ross
11 - 281,000 - 2014 GRAMMY NOMINEES - Various
12 - 272,000 - G I R L - Pharrell Williams
13 - 251,000 - CRASH MY PARTY - Luke Bryan
14 - 243,000 - KIDZ BOP 25 - Kidz Bop Kids
15 - 231,000 - HERE'S TO THE GOOD TIMES - Florida Georgia Line
16 - 230,000 - BANGERZ - Miley Cyrus
17 - 223,000 - OXYMORON - ScHoolboy Q
18 - 210,000 - MIDNIGHT MEMORIES - One Direction
19 - 190,000 - NOTHING WAS THE SAME - Drake
20 - 190,000 - MORNING PHASE - Beck

21 - 183,000 - BAD BLOOD - Bastille
22 - 181,000 - HIGH HOPES - Bruce Springsteen
23 - 181,000 - LOVE MARRIAGE AND DIVORCE - Toni Braxton & Babyface
24 - 177,000 - LOVE IN THE FUTURE - John Legend
25 - 169,000 - SHE LOOKS SO PERFECT (EP) - 5 Seconds Of Summer
26 - 161,000 - BLACK PANTIES - R.Kelly
27 - 158,000 - THE 20/20 EXPERIENCE (2 OF 2) - Justin Timberlake
28 - 158,000 - NOW 48 - Various
29 - 156,000 - THE HEIST - Macklemore & Ryan Lewis
30 - 151,000 - FORMULA VOL.2 - Romeo Santos
31 - 147,000 - AM - Arctic Monkeys
32 - 147,000 - THAT GIRL - Jennifer Nettles
33 - 144,000 - NATIVE - OneRepublic
34 - 142,000 - THRIVE - Casting Crowns
35 - 140,000 - COLE SWINDELL - Cole Swindell
36 - 131,000 - SHAKIRA - Shakira
37 - 128,000 - MY OWN LANE - Kid Ink
38 - 121,000 - SAIL OUT (EP) - Jhene Aiko
39 - 120,000 - ALL THE LITTLE LIGHTS - Passenger
40 - 117,000 - RISER - Dierks Bentley
41 - 113,000 - SPRING BREAK 6: LIKE WE AIN'T EVER (EP) - Luke Bryan
42 - 112,000 - MY KRAZY LIFE - YG
43 - 111,000 - DOO-WOPS AND HOOLIGANS - Bruno Mars
44 - 109,000 - SAME TRAILER DIFFERENT PARK - Kacey Musgraves
45 - 108,000 - IS THERE ANYBODY OUT THERE - A Great Big World
46 - 108,000 - GOOD KID M.A.A.D CITY - Kendrick Lamar
47 - 107,000 - RANDOM ACCESS MEMORIES - Daft Punk
48 - 104,000 - SATELLITE FLIGHT: THE JOURNEY TO MOTHER MOON - Kid Cudi
49 - 103,000 - ARTPOP - Lady GaGa
50 - 100,000 - BLAME IT ALL ON MY ROOTS - Garth Brooks

 

[Mr Uncle Leroy]

This theory that no one is buying music is false, definitely not as much but they are buying it. No one is buying hip-hop albums outside of the usual suspects. How can we get our beloved genre back to prosperity?

Frozen? Who is frozen?

 

[jilla82]

Listen to the rap music today, and wonder why a Disney OST or Adele's 21 goes diamond

for real...has anyone actually listened to the radio recently? shyt is horrible!
I know cats think that anyone older than 28 that complains about the music is ...but the music of today really is horrible.

and has anyone mentioned that Frozen is the most popular Disney movie of all time...OF ALL TIME!!!

 

[kermit da hustla]

Lot of these dudes dont give anyone a reason to buy their new music. What is "new" about a new Rick Ross CD? Where is the creativity? What about it is worth supporting and funding for the next CD? Regardless of whatever changes have happened with the music business model the bottom line is the music today just isn't that good. When we fix that then we can talk business

Mastermind is a dope fukking album.

 

[CodeBlaMeVi]

Frozen? Who is frozen?

It's a Disney movie ost.

 

[Mr Uncle Leroy]

It's a Disney movie ost.

I was having a discussion about this. A buddy and I was talking pop music. It just a bigger market. Plus the movies has an audience, a warm market.
So, once folks go to the movie, they like the songs in the movie/album promotion and they can go see the movie. Its such a one-time scenario.
But the more creative music album releases are, the more success they can achieve.

 

[Pool_Shark]

I wonder if other genres obsess so much about sales and becoming the premier genre for music.

 

[The_King_of_Everything]

I wonder if other genres obsess so much about sales and becoming the premier genre for music.

Nope only this one. You can thank jayz 50 cent and Diddy for that.

 

[Pool_Shark]

Nope only this one. You can thank jayz 50 cent and Diddy for that.

shyt disgusts me. Imagine if ALL rappers went in the studio with the mindset I gotta outsell the Frozen soundtrack with this album. Even worse every single label with every single album from every single rapper doing what ever they possibly could to outsell Frozen OST. Pitbull, Flo-Rida, Diddy era in full effect. Freddie Gibbs and Madlib going into the studio trying to appeal to 2 million in record sales

 

[MartyMcFly]

It never will return back to the numbers of the 90's/00's. Don't matter what you do, only a few can hit this range now and ever will. It's simple, rap music isn't supported by its fans, its supported by mainly vultures. We don't value our artists like other genre's do. Rock music is proud of the bands who paved the way while in rap we call them old and need to STFU.

Don't even get me started on the music that's pushed to the masses, most of it if not all of it is fukking trash

Been saying this for years. Word for word. Method Man talked about this like 13 years ago. He said that white fans support the dope shyt out the gate when it comes to rock music. They come up listening to classic rock and don't settle for less but hip hop fans and black fans aren't built that way. it's always what's hot at the moment

 

[The_King_of_Everything]

Been saying this for years. Word for word. Method Man talked about this like 13 years ago. He said that white fans support the dope shyt out the gate when it comes to rock music. They come up listening to classic rock and don't settle for less but hip hop fans and black fans aren't built that way. it's always what's hot at the moment

Fast food music. As soon as you digest it (listen to it), you shyt it out (forget about it).

 

[JustCKing]

How does Frozen selling reflect on Hip Hop? It's the soundtrack to a big movie that has a song on it by a woman who recently gained considerable notoriety because John Travolta mispronounced her name at the Oscars.

In addition, it's not like other genres are out here pushing Frozen numbers either. As far as Hip Hop, didn't Eminem just do 2M. Drake's nearing 1.5M if he hasn't done it already. Outside of them, the only other artists doing numbers like that or better are Beyonce, Justin Timberlake, and Katy Perry.

 

[KENNY DA COOKER]

Why is Frozen selling? Because it appeals to multiple demographics. Women, young girls, gay cacs, old people , etc. It's a smash regardless of race, too.

The only way for rap to sell now is to appeal to women. Dudes are downloading everything, hence why Drake/Kendrick/Cole run things: women fukk with them heavy. That's not going to change.

now I see why they call you "PIFF"!!!

you speak da truth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

we overestimate HIP HOP's selling power..it is still the "dunce genre" of the music business.........unless it's waterdowned..or diluted with pop sensibilities and politically correct and sensitive to others outside of it's traditional market then it will always sell subpar...

especially since the genre has been shifted to mostly gangsta/trap/coke boy music

ain't no over 35 parent....or person who like melodies and lives in the suburbs is gonna support this shyt..hell my black a$$ who ain't getting any younger really don't desire to listen to the yung thugs..Freddie gibbs and yg's....THESE THE NICCAS I DON'T WANT LIVING IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD............so I damn sure ain't buying they shyt to suppor their lifestyle..

judge mathis said his favorite rapper right now is DRAKE..yall might byatch and moan..but I can relate....you get older your comfortable with feelings of sensitivity...and drake can evoke them musically....one day when yall GET OLDER and trust me it will happen you will understand

You can't be TURNED UP FOREVER ................................................lil n1gga

 

[CodeBlaMeVi]

@JustCKing @Pool_Shark this is an issue because hip-hop is the sole art form that doesn't take high skills to produce or be involved in. Everyone wants to get paid from what they love doing and if the beatmakers and hookwriters don't get paid then it brings down quality even further. That's why sales is an issue. Beatmakers do not do commercials or shows, the "artists" do so they count on those albums sales. Other genres like rock, songwriting is usually in-house so they compose and perform their own music and make money a million ways like performing as a unit. Hip-hop isn't afforded that luxury. Learn the business model of the industry. I, personally, do not bother with composing hip-hop music because of this current trap era.