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I still don’t understand why folks are so laser focused on the YSL is a gang part.

They never would have gotten the Rico indictments if they didn’t already prove that to the grand jury.
nikkas just regurgitating dumb shyt other nikkas regurgitating. It's clear many don't have an idea how the legal system work let alone the depths of this case
 

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You nikkas just be saying anything

Young Thug's whole defence was YSL wasn't a gang. Gunna and this other guy obviously stated otherwise, that's why it's snitching.

GS9 was indicted on shootings and wiretaps. They didn't have a defence at all, so all they could do was plea. The others were stupid to take it to trial
Why do yall just type shyt? YSL being a gang or not was never gonna save him from the shyt he's actually accused of.
 

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It's still about offering evidence on someone else. It never exclusively meant "take the stand" because cats could always rat without taking the stand...
Until he actually offers evidence on somebody, it’s :manny:.
Nobody in the streets anywhere likens taking a plea to snitching.
Depends on the case and the charge.
That isn't standard plea language either unless you tell. Telling is voluntary. That language isn't included in any plea unless you've volunteered to give the boys criminal information...
Cap. There is going to be cooperation language in there regardless of whether you snitched or not in a racketeering case.

My nikka went to trial when everyone else took the plea just because he didn't want that attached to his image.

"The cooperation language isn't negotiable :ufdup:."



Nobody in the streets anywhere likens taking a plea to snitching. In real life if you take a plea but your co-d doesn't, that's not viewed as snitching. I've been around too many of these scenarios. I've seen a dude take a 5-7 manslaughter plea and tell, and everybody was telling the co-d he couldn't go to trial because his co-d was telling and got off with 5-7, and nikka still took it to trial and got acquitted...
You're right, in real life it ain't considered a snitching until you actually do. But on the internet nowadays, everybody a snitch just because someone went online and grabbed some "paperwork."

But you also know in a case like this when nikkas come home early, get a nice plea, etc people but that suspicion on them until it gets resolved.

And that's where we are here.

Every damn day a nikka takes a plea for a lesser sentence and reduced charges without giving up the game.

When it's all said and done we'll know what gunna did or didn't do.
 

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nikkas just regurgitating dumb shyt other nikkas regurgitating. It's clear many don't have an idea how the legal system work let alone the depths of this case
We're so far past that point. His only hope is convincing nikkas he ain't at the top, but even then he's got so much other shyt directly on his name it doesn't even matter.
 

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Until he actually offers evidence on somebody, it’s :manny:.

Depends on the case and the charge.

Cap. There is going to be cooperation language in there regardless of whether you snitched or not in a racketeering case.

My nikka went to trial when everyone else took the plea just because he didn't want that attached to his image.

"The cooperation language isn't negotiable :ufdup:."




You're right, in real life it ain't considered a snitching until you actually do. But on the internet nowadays, everybody a snitch just because someone went online and grabbed some "paperwork."

But you also know in a case like this when nikkas come home early, get a nice plea, etc people but that suspicion on them until it gets resolved.

And that's where we are here.

Every damn day a nikka takes a plea for a lesser sentence and reduced charges without giving up the game.

When it's all said and done we'll know what gunna did or didn't do.
If your nikka didn't get off he's an idiot, furthermore, there's almost always room to negotiate in plea deals...

I've never had a RICO and neither have you, but I've been around more accounts than just your one homeboy. In no case, of anything, does anyone need to cooperate------>unless they just want to...

I agree with you that we all don't know what the details of everything are, nor should we. That's part of the reason I haven't spoken much on this case. But remind me, didn't Gunna's leaked plea also have the "I know what others were doing" shyt too? That's what makes him a rat, if true...

You don't get to say "I know what people did" and not tall about it, law enforcement nor the judicial system are coneheads. They know how to play the game. If a brother has in his plea that he admits knowing what other dudes were on, that brother had to talk about what he knows, otherwise there's no incentive to let dudes off light...
 

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If your nikka didn't get off he's an idiot, furthermore, there's almost always room to negotiate in plea deals...

I've never had a RICO and neither have you, but I've been around more accounts than just your one homeboy. In no case, of anything, does anyone need to cooperate------>unless they just want to...

I agree with you that we all don't know what the details of everything are, nor should we. That's part of the reason I haven't spoken much on this case. But remind me, didn't Gunna's leaked plea also have the "I know what others were doing" shyt too? That's what makes him a rat, if true...

You don't get to say "I know what people did" and not tall about it, law enforcement nor the judicial system are coneheads. They know how to play the game. If a brother has in his plea that he admits knowing what other dudes were on, that brother had to talk about what he knows, otherwise there's no incentive to let dudes off light...
The biggest mistakes folks making here is attempting to create these one size fits all rules to how things go.

In general, if you're in a RICO or similar case that agreement is usually in there because, as you admit, there's usually no incentive to just let folks off light like they did.

But these ain't the feds, they don't have the same resources, and I thought it dropped a while back the reason we're seeing so many of these deals with long probation is because they simply didn't have the resources.

Make no mistake, we didn't get here without those guys at the very least being willing to give up something.
 

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The biggest mistakes folks making here is attempting to create these one size fits all rules to how things go.

In general, if you're in a RICO or similar case that agreement is usually in there because, as you admit, there's usually no incentive to just let folks off light like they did.

But these ain't the feds, they don't have the same resources, and I thought it dropped a while back the reason we're seeing so many of these deals with long probation is because they simply didn't have the resources.

Make no mistake, we didn't get here without those guys at the very least being willing to give up something.
No doubt, my point is none of these dudes had to tell. It's not a requirement. And if guys know that the prosecution doesn't have Fed resources that's even more reason to play the long game, which, this sheds a positive light on Thug playing the long game. He way have info that gives him some outs on an underfunded prosecution that has holes in their game...

Any vet of the system, speaking from the defendant's standpoint, you should know to wait to get all the information they got on you. Legally they have to disclose that, there's always a chance they have a wild card that is introduced later, but this indictment was gathering info on YSL for years. You have the right to all the information the prosecution has, you wait that out, and you're able to craft your best defense from that...

Especially if these muhfukkas don't have you nailed to the wall on something...

The problem is most these types run in that bytch and are ready to talk from jump, they hear "RICO" or "facing a maximum punishment of _____ years" and can't hold their nuts. They don't even give themselves a chance to fight the shyt off because they get shook and turn witness...

Like I said I haven't followed this shyt intensely, but you sharing that the prosecution lacks strong resources and is the reason these probation are going out, changes my opinion somewhat for Thug. He may have a chance then if the opposition are relative rookies. Honestly in situations like this The State normally trues to get The Feds to take the case...

I'd be surprised if they haven't even tried. That The Feds haven't taken it yet either means they weren't asked, or more likely, they don't feel comfortable taking a case they don't think they'll win. Which again, changes the math on what I think for Thug's success rate...

(I've shared in the past that I once had a state case, they asked for The Feds to take me, Feds investigated for a couple months but ultimately didn't take it. The Feds aren't taking a case they don't think they'll win)...

There's always situations, outside and inside, that tell you a dude's true character. None of these dudes "had" to talk. There's plenty of situations of cats being rounded up but released because dudes didn't waver, even if that isn't the majority...
 
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