Funk Flex challenges old NY rappers to step their music game up: UPDATE: Rae and Ghost gets called out

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That’s not always true tho. In recent years, I saw radio get behind Troy Ave’s music and try pushing that on the people and the people wouldn’t budge for shyt.

But they still got behind it though. Radio won't even give everyone that chance, then say "well you not making good songs." There's plenty that would catch on...and I think that's all the elders are saying.
 

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Math doesn't make many radio friendly songs, but I don't see why that Meth song can't get some night mix show play.

To those saying it's not "hot", maybe if they played something besides the same 5 songs, 3 of which sound alike, it would catch back on, which is what I think the older NYC guys are saying. Touch The Sky isn't my favorite, but I don't see how some people wouldn't like it for a radio song.


Math has some shyt




that hook on touch the sky is awful. awful. awful. :russ:

also...
  • doja first popped with a troll single on youtube.
  • lizzo, billie eilish, and post malone first made waves with shyt they released to soundcloud.
  • chance, da baby and nip are artists i remember hearing about on soundcloud as well.
  • cardi used her IG to build an audience while she was on her mixtape grind, and stayed grinding and building her brand until she finally started getting spins.
there have never been as many ways to find an audience for your content as there are right now. and math has NEVER been as popular on a mainstream level as he is right this minute. top 10 podcast on spotify a couple weeks back, yet he has less than 2,000 monthly listeners for his music on the same platform? ak averages 60k monthly listeners for that lil ak bullshyt, and he hasn't released music in... years? the city girls' former makeup artist (i didnt even know he released music until he got flamed for talking shyt about beyonce's kid) averages 2.5M monthly listeners.

if people ain't fukking with the music, then either prioritize what's working and leave the music alone or... figure out what isn't working with the music. putting it on the DJs in 2022 feels like you're giving yourself a way to avoid accountability for a lack of interest in your shyt.

maybe people just dont fukk with it?
 
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that hook on touch the sky is awful. awful. awful. :russ:

also...
  • doja first popped with a troll single on youtube.
  • lizzo, billie eilish, and post malone first made waves with shyt they released to soundcloud.
  • chance, da baby and nip are artists i remember hearing about on soundcloud as well.
  • cardi used her IG to build an audience while she was on her mixtape grind, and stayed grinding and building her brand until she finally started getting spins.
there have never been as many ways to find an audience for your content as there are right now. and math has NEVER been as popular on a mainstream level as he is right this minute. top 10 podcast on spotify a couple weeks back, yet he has less than 2,000 monthly listeners for his music on the same platform? ak averages 60k monthly listeners for that lil ak bullshyt, and he hasn't released music in... years? the city girls' former makeup artist (i didnt even know he released music until he got flamed for talking shyt about beyonce's kid) averages 2.5M monthly listeners.

if people ain't fukking with the music, then either prioritize what's working and leave the music alone or... figure out what isn't working with the music. putting it on the DJs in 2022 feels like you're giving yourself a way to avoid accountability for a lack of interest in your shyt.

maybe people just dont fukk with it?

It’s a fossil mentality quite honestly. A lot of these guys want the radio look because they see that as the heavy lifting being done for them. Get on the radio and everything becomes easy st in their mind
 

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that hook on touch the sky is awful. awful. awful. :russ:

also...
  • doja first popped with a troll single on youtube.
  • lizzo, billie eilish, and post malone first made waves with shyt they released to soundcloud.
  • chance, da baby and nip are artists i remember hearing about on soundcloud as well.
  • cardi used her IG to build an audience while she was on her mixtape grind, and stayed grinding and building her brand until she finally started getting spins.
there have never been as many ways to find an audience for your content as there are right now. and math has NEVER been as popular on a mainstream level as he is right this minute. top 10 podcast on spotify a couple weeks back, yet he has less than 2,000 monthly listeners for his music on the same platform? ak averages 60k monthly listeners for that lil ak bullshyt, and he hasn't released music in... years? the city girls' former makeup artist (i didnt even know he released music until he got flamed for talking shyt about beyonce's kid) averages 2.5M monthly listeners.

if people ain't fukking with the music, then either prioritize what's working and leave the music alone or... figure out what isn't working with the music. putting it on the DJs in 2022 feels like you're giving yourself a way to avoid accountability for a lack of interest in your shyt.

maybe people just dont fukk with it?
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that hook on touch the sky is awful. awful. awful. :russ:

also...
  • doja first popped with a troll single on youtube.
  • lizzo, billie eilish, and post malone first made waves with shyt they released to soundcloud.
  • chance, da baby and nip are artists i remember hearing about on soundcloud as well.
  • cardi used her IG to build an audience while she was on her mixtape grind, and stayed grinding and building her brand until she finally started getting spins.
there have never been as many ways to find an audience for your content as there are right now. and math has NEVER been as popular on a mainstream level as he is right this minute. top 10 podcast on spotify a couple weeks back, yet he has less than 2,000 monthly listeners for his music on the same platform? ak averages 60k monthly listeners for that lil ak bullshyt, and he hasn't released music in... years? the city girls' former makeup artist (i didnt even know he released music until he got flamed for talking shyt about beyonce's kid) averages 2.5M monthly listeners.

if people ain't fukking with the music, then either prioritize what's working and leave the music alone or... figure out what isn't working with the music. putting it on the DJs in 2022 feels like you're giving yourself a way to avoid accountability for a lack of interest in your shyt.

maybe people just dont fukk with it?

It’s a fossil mentality quite honestly. A lot of these guys want the radio look because they see that as the heavy lifting being done for them. Get on the radio and everything becomes easy st in their mind
I think in part it's an NYC pride thing. A ton of NYC rappers are still mad (rightfully) that their local radio, the most popular on Earth, abandoned their sound and helped the city lose its reign in Hip-Hop. This is why Kay Slay was so loved.
 

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It’s a fossil mentality quite honestly. A lot of these guys want the radio look because they see that as the heavy lifting being done for them. Get on the radio and everything becomes easy st in their mind



math released a vlog on youtube a couple weeks back that i think sheds a lot of light on his pov. it was interesting. he hears the "stick to the podcast" talk, but he said being confined to one space isn't living for him, no matter how successful he is. he's always going to want to see what else he can do. i can def understand that.

he also said he was gonna be top 5 by the end of the year. :russ:

i think if you gave math a choice he'd choose a successful music career over the podcast if the money was even. i think he genuinely works really fukking hard at his craft. i also think he's an incredibly stubborn personality, and isn't ready to acknowledge that a) his music isn't that strong, and b) his music career may never, ever pop the way he wants it to, and c) he isn't owed a look just because.

if someone tells you that your music is trash and you dont agree.. i get it. but if NO ONE is checking for your music that's not on the dj. that's on you to prove them wrong. hip hop is littered with legends that no one checked for at first glance.
 
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I think in part it's an NYC pride thing. A ton of NYC rappers are still mad (rightfully) that their local radio, the most popular on Earth, abandoned their sound and helped the city lose its reign in Hip-Hop. This is why Kay Slay was so loved.

No disrespect to you but this is bullshyt.

Pete Rock, Heatmakerz, RZA, Trackmasters & Swizz were all at one point “The NY Sound” yet there isn’t much overlap in each of their signatures. Every 2-3 years things would change AS IT SHOULD

The kids are trying to define themselves nowadays and I could have sworn that’s what a thriving music scene should be

Why should it go back to some DITC Duckdown anymore than it should Dame Grease or Marley Marl

Old nikkax want familiarity whereas young nikkax take risk

Let the kids define themselves
 

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I think in part it's an NYC pride thing. A ton of NYC rappers are still mad (rightfully) that their local radio, the most popular on Earth, abandoned their sound and helped the city lose its reign in Hip-Hop. This is why Kay Slay was so loved.

it does speak to a fossil mentality somewhat, like @thedevilyouknow said.

hip hop is now a business. the biggest business in music. and the radio model has moved to amplifying what's already working; that's how they keep an audience/sponsors, by playing what people want to hear. even if it is the same shyt all day.

it's not really their role to break new artists anymore. the kids have figured this out, and get their shyt popping on their own first. flex and others have been candid about this for years. it's wild that some artists choose to ignore what's in front of their face.
 
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