Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuukkkkk The Needle Drop!

[homiedontplaydat]

Why do you get to decide who is + isn't a part of hip hop culture?

Whats your claim to legitimacy, aside from I'm guessing "growing up in the hood"?

You do realize "outsiders" have been an integral part of hip hop pretty much from day 1, be it Rick Rubin, the Beastie Boys, or the millions of "outsiders" who bought shyt by NWA, Pac, Wu Tang, etc

So what are you talking about?

Nobody is taking you seriously, make no mistake bruh. I will still listen to and MAKE rap music, just as I have for the last 20 yrs. I just think its hilarious how people will completely throw out logic to validate their POV. If dude had the same nasal whiny voice/intonation, appearance, skin color etc but gave the albums positive reviews you wouldn't be on some "nah he aint part of my culture"



Exactly

Its like "if you dont agree w/the consensus I've come to theres something wrong with you" Man dudes kill me

Your the one who is giving my words power. Like i said u dont have to agree with anything im saying, i wouldn't expect u to. Your just upset because i dont except u and Needle as apart of this culture.

 

[Monoblock]

She agree that I'm looney is straight dropping knowledge in this thread and getting to the heart of what's wrong with hip hop nowadays and a large portion of fans. And before yall try to hit me with that you must be white shyt kill that noise. The problem has nothing to do with race it has to do with fans not having the ability to discuss music intelligently and that bullshyt about white people not being able to feel music like us is garbage. To even say some shyt proves either you have never been around a diverse group of people and too scared to interact with people that aren't "hood" or you too young to know any better. Stop acting like Fantano is the problem and start demanding more from artists and not just cosign something bc everyone else does.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Your the one who is giving my words power. Like i said u dont have to agree with anything im saying, i wouldn't expect u to. Your just upset because i dont except u and Needle as apart of this culture.

I'm not giving you anything but questions to answer bruh. And if I'm giving you power by asking how you are the owner and gatekeeper of hip hop, then you must be damn near sucking dude's dikk for feeling the need to make the point that you banish him from the hip hop kingdom. There was a time when someone could call a record wack, explain why they felt that way, and not have their credibility attacked... u sensitive nikkas are ruining the culture w/ur inability to be objective.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

She agree that I'm looney is straight dropping knowledge in this thread and getting to the heart of what's wrong with hip hop nowadays and a large portion of fans. And before yall try to hit me with that you must be white shyt kill that noise. The problem has nothing to do with race it has to do with fans not having the ability to discuss music intelligently and that bullshyt about white people not being able to feel music like us is garbage. To even say some shyt proves either you have never been around a diverse group of people and too scared to interact with people that aren't "hood" or you too young to know any better. Stop acting like Fantano is the problem and start demanding more from artists and not just cosign something bc everyone else does.

Dudes don't know better. Prob started listening to rap when C3 dropped. shyt, prob started listening to music period when C3 dropped. And now they're the last word in hip hop

 

[Clapsteel O'Neal]

the only album he's ever given a 10/10 is a hip hop album and is the album in my avi


he also has given BIG Krit 9/10 twice


Its just his opinion. Get over it

 

[homiedontplaydat]

Dudes don't know better. Prob started listening to rap when C3 dropped. shyt, prob started listening to music period when C3 dropped. And now they're the last word in hip hop

Typical outsider response. Ur upset because u know what im saying applies to u

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Why would I be upset? You yourself said your words don't matter... which warrants the question of why you bothered posting them in the first place

And if "your culture" celebrates frauds, materialism and drug dealing, fukk "your culture"

 

[Insensitive]

Who gets to make that decision? You?


Then why even bother talking about him?


I can't say whether thats true or not (just as you can't), but if it is, at least dude made an effort to learn dude's history. You got a lot of kids who are "a part of the culture" who at anything before C3, why do they get a pass?


This is a pure copout for a weak disc.... dude broke down (moreso w/GFID) what he did and didn't like about the album objectively... rather than counter any of the FACTS he states, you run behind a "well white people cannot 'feel' music". If you knew that going in, why did you even bother to listen to his review? Would you be saying that if dude had given them ratings you agreed with?



And nikkas don't run behind safe choices?

You are here defending two albums w/a lot of outright objective flaws/problems... why? Because Nas is a legend u feel like u cant disrespect who dropped a half-decent disc, and because Ross, a dude who spits nothing but fabrications and repetitive surface level kingpin musings, apparently makes music for "real nikkas"

Black hip hop fans these days are the ones making the safe choices, that is why dudes like Ross continue to flourish... nikkas feel like they have to like it. Anything outside of the mainstream = "nikka that aint real nikka shyt, put that Ross back on"

I can understand his Rick Ross review, Rick Ross's music is light and easily consumed, the lyrics lack any real depth, they're littered with cliche's and backed by grandiose, in your face, higly polished instrumentals.

His albums are like the Hip Hop equivalent of an Action Movie.

It's just his Nas review just seemed weak to me, he spent half the review spewing what everyone else says about Nas "His career has been disappointing","His production was bad" etc.
Almost as if he couldn't think for himself, it was weird that he could enjoy an album like XXX for the production but then turn around and say "The production on LIG is weak". Didn't help that he spent half the review focusing on Nas's career and NOT the album.

I didn't agree with most of his points (which weren't many) because a lot of the greivances people previously had with Nas were addressed on the album.
He didn't intentionally leave out certain things that fit what people have come to expect from Nas to stick to a concept this time around.
He spit story tracks, street tales, talked about his life, relationships, being a father etc.

Anthony's whole review was pretty bad, as I said before he didn't expand to much on what he didn't enjoy, he had very light criticism on daughters, complained about his production, which I was floored by because it's the best production dude has had in years.
I haven't watched the review since he posted it but there are probably more things that he did that just didn't seem to add to the review at all.

I personally read/watch reviews to try to see the project from another angle, make sense of what they found wrong and come to a more objective conclusion. I'm fine with people having different opinions as long as those opinons are explained well and the reviewer comes off as informed.

 

[NikBates]

Well they are only his opinions, and he says that in all his video descriptions...

I think all his reviews are on point, at least he gives multiple reasons, and ALWAYS mentions positives as well as negatives.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

I mean the Nas review was not that great, but just like dudes are going apeshyt over that GFID review cause his opinion didn't line up with theirs, I wasn't really feeling LIG either, and after a couple of listens haven't even been able to chew into it enough to know whether his criticisms were off base

The production was still weak to me, the concepts were nowhere near Nas' best... I just couldn't get into it. I compare everything Nas does w/his best shyt and LIG just doesn't compare. Different doesnt always mean worse but in this case for me it just wasn't clicking

To each their own though, why people are so amped up over one dude's opinion is

 

[Insensitive]

I mean the Nas review was not that great, but just like dudes are going apeshyt over that GFID review cause his opinion didn't line up with theirs, I wasn't really feeling LIG either, and after a couple of listens haven't even been able to chew into it enough to know whether his criticisms were off base

The production was still weak to me, the concepts were nowhere near Nas' best... I just couldn't get into it. I compare everything Nas does w/his best shyt and LIG just doesn't compare. Different doesnt always mean worse but in this case for me it just wasn't clicking

To each their own though, why people are so amped up over one dude's opinion is

It's just how people are, this isn't restricted to Hip Hop though.
It happens with EVERYTHING some people put immense stock into the things they like and when someone disagrees with them they dislike it.
Don't believe me ?
Goto Rotten Tomatoes look up movies with very high scores and find the few people who disagree.
Goto IGN or Gamespot and read the reviews that were the lowest for a
game that scored well, you'll find pretty angry comments.
Goto CNN or any news website discussing an important topic, you'll find
people who hate the person who broke the piece.

The only time I really have issues with another person's opinion is when it's obviously uninformed (poorly researched, flat out wrong etc.) or when they're not providing any real critique and instead just let nonsense fall off their tongue some people just resort to sh1tting on something instead of explaining why they feel that way, defeating the purpose of a review.
In Anthony's case that's how it felt, his Kendrick Reviews and Ab-Soul reviews seemed more thorough mentioning features,quoting lyrics, expanding on what he liked and didn't like, it felt like a real critique with LIG not so much.

As for my peronal opinion, I found it to be a great album, I spinned it a few times but other projects have been in the pipe for me lately both old and new so I haven't had much time to go back.
I personally feel it was a great project, sonically it sounded fantastic, musically they did some cool stuff with their samples (chopin ) and lyrically Nas was as nice as he's ever been some of the multi syllabic rhymes and word choices he makes are insane.
With that said I can see why someone wouldn't enjoy LIG with Nas coming off of two projects focusing on more conscious subjects.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Its true, I think the internet enables people to find power in being opinionated... Needledrop dude included

The flip side of that being, when someone makes legitimate points against their opinions, people really get out of sorts

I enjoy a lot of shyt I'm not "supposed" to, and there's a lot of shyt that's hot that I just can't rock with (these 2 albums for example... I bet you nobody will be talking about either in 2 or so months, a good gauge for objective quality IME)... but hey we are all different

 

[BStapies]

the only album he's ever given a 10/10 is a hip hop album and is the album in my avi


he also has given BIG Krit 9/10 twice


Its just his opinion. Get over it

He gave section 80 an 8/10
Livelovea$ap an 8/10
Danny browns XXX an 8/10

Thats the highest I've seen him give a hip hop album. Pretty sure everything eles got lower

 

[daze23]

He gave section 80 an 8/10
Livelovea$ap an 8/10
Danny browns XXX an 8/10

Thats the highest I've seen him give a hip hop album. Pretty sure everything eles got lower

he did give that death grips album 10/10

 

[MouseTeeth]

I can understand his Rick Ross review, Rick Ross's music is light and easily consumed, the lyrics lack any real depth, they're littered with cliche's and backed by grandiose, in your face, higly polished instrumentals.

His albums are like the Hip Hop equivalent of an Action Movie.

It's just his Nas review just seemed weak to me, he spent half the review spewing what everyone else says about Nas "His career has been disappointing","His production was bad" etc.
Almost as if he couldn't think for himself, it was weird that he could enjoy an album like XXX for the production but then turn around and say "The production on LIG is weak". Didn't help that he spent half the review focusing on Nas's career and NOT the album.

I didn't agree with most of his points (which weren't many) because a lot of the greivances people previously had with Nas were addressed on the album.
He didn't intentionally leave out certain things that fit what people have come to expect from Nas to stick to a concept this time around.
He spit story tracks, street tales, talked about his life, relationships, being a father etc.

Anthony's whole review was pretty bad, as I said before he didn't expand to much on what he didn't enjoy, he had very light criticism on daughters, complained about his production, which I was floored by because it's the best production dude has had in years.
I haven't watched the review since he posted it but there are probably more things that he did that just didn't seem to add to the review at all.

I personally read/watch reviews to try to see the project from another angle, make sense of what they found wrong and come to a more objective conclusion. I'm fine with people having different opinions as long as those opinons are explained well and the reviewer comes off as informed.

Lol did u just Review a .....review?