Gambia's president declares Islamic statehood

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I'm not saying their evil. I have a few Arab friends who are genuinely good people. However as a collective group their presence has been disastrous for black people. At the end of the day it is up to blacks to realize their own potential, otherwise other groups will continually exploit them.

How have they been disastrous to blacks when the black panthers, NOI and the black power movements in the 60s/70s gave their children Arabic names and taught them that Arabs are their brothers and sisters?
 
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You idiot, do you even know anything about Islam in western Africa? Have you ever met a west African Muslim before? There was no Arab conquerors involved in converting the west Africans to Islam. There was never any Arabic colonies also. The reason that Islam spread in West Africa is that African kings and the rulings class accepted Islam by being in constant contact with Muslim merchant-scholars in turn the masses in the region accepted Islam.

1) Muslim merchant-scholars from north Africa assisted the African Kings in trade and commerce (this is nothing new, this happened all over the world from China to Indonesia)

2) Many of these merchants were also spreading the word of Islam, The African Kings either for economical, political or spiritual reasons accepted Islam

3) The ruling class of the African society accepted Islam, then after this the rest of society.

This is the same reason that Indonesia is the largest Muslim country in the world, not because of Arab conquest. If you look at all of the west African nations that practice Islam, there is no influence of Arabic in there language. Arabs controlled Spain for hundreds of years, but you can see the Arabic influence in there language and culture. Do some research and get your facts right.

Islam in Gambia | History

FSI | SPICE - The Spread of Islam in West Africa: Containment, Mixing, and Reform from the Eighth to the Twentieth Century

In Nigeria, Islam was spread throughout the North and South-West by Fulani nomads, who often used brute force to convert people so I don't think it's right to say that all West African Muslims converted to Islam at their own free will.
 

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You idiot, do you even know anything about Islam in western Africa? Have you ever met a west African Muslim before? There was no Arab conquerors involved in converting the west Africans to Islam. There was never any Arabic colonies also. The reason that Islam spread in West Africa is that African kings and the rulings class accepted Islam by being in constant contact with Muslim merchant-scholars in turn the masses in the region accepted Islam.

1) Muslim merchant-scholars from north Africa assisted the African Kings in trade and commerce (this is nothing new, this happened all over the world from China to Indonesia)

2) Many of these merchants were also spreading the word of Islam, The African Kings either for economical, political or spiritual reasons accepted Islam

3) The ruling class of the African society accepted Islam, then after this the rest of society.

This is the same reason that Indonesia is the largest Muslim country in the world, not because of Arab conquest. If you look at all of the west African nations that practice Islam, there is no influence of Arabic in there language. Arabs controlled Spain for hundreds of years, but you can see the Arabic influence in there language and culture. Do some research and get your facts right.

Islam in Gambia | History

FSI | SPICE - The Spread of Islam in West Africa: Containment, Mixing, and Reform from the Eighth to the Twentieth Century


you forgot to mention that the "trade" these african elites engaged in included slaves

african elites have been selling out for 1000 years
 

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In Nigeria, Islam was spread throughout the North and South-West by Fulani nomads, who often used brute force to convert people so I don't think it's right to say that all West African Muslims converted to Islam at their own free will.
This is not entirely true and if it was what does this have to do with the false statement of Arabs converting west Africans to Islam and building colonies. Different west African people converted other Africans people to traditional and other religions by brute force and The Fulani are a West African People.
 

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Anybody else noticing the irony of using a supposedly "free" religion and way of thinking to take complete and utter control of a country? :mjpls:
 

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lets just make assumptions breh :russ: I know where every country is on the globe, I played a lot of civ and risk. I'm an ignorant CAC tho i couldn't possibly know where an african country is :dead:

I'm a black guy and I'll keep it 100, the average CAC will name more countries in Africa correctly than your average brother/sister, hell I bet you most of the coli couldn't point out Wyomying or South Dakota on a map with no state labels :francis:
 

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I'm a black guy and I'll keep it 100, the average CAC will name more countries in Africa correctly than your average brother/sister, hell I bet you most of the coli couldn't point out Wyomying or South Dakota on a map with no state labels :francis:
in general americans are terrible at locating even states on a map, let alone foreign countries, that's why I made the statement that I did. I memorized all 50 states and their locations in elementary and me and my dad used to play a game where I'd spin a globe and he'd put his finger on a country and I'd have to name it in addition to playing games like civilization and risk
 

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you forgot to mention that the "trade" these african elites engaged in included slaves

african elites have been selling out for 1000 years

Generations of people where involved in the Trade and contact between North Africa & Sub-Sahara Africa, you must distinguish two different groups

1) The majority of Arab Muslim merchant-scholars lived close to the King or elite in West Africa, some who help establish Sufi Muslim Orders that helped the elite west Africans in Muslim scholarship and commerce. Many of the different regions that practice Islam in West Africa can be traced back to this.

2) Arab slavetraders, just took slaves from sub-Sahara Africa to North Africa, they where not Islamic, they did not use Islam as a tool to enslave west Africans and they did not care about spreading Islam.
 

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in general americans are terrible at locating even states on a map, let alone foreign countries, that's why I made the statement that I did. I memorized all 50 states and their locations in elementary and me and my dad used to play a game where I'd spin a globe and he'd put his finger on a country and I'd have to name it in addition to playing games like civilization and risk

Most Americans are ignorant of anything outside of a 25 mile radius if it's not on TV :francis: It's morbidly fascinating how this society has dominated the world for as long as it has :mindblown:
 

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Generations of people where involved in the Trade and contact between North Africa & Sub-Sahara Africa, you must distinguish two different groups

1) The majority of Arab Muslim merchant-scholars lived close to the King or elite in West Africa, some who help establish Sufi Muslim Orders that helped the elite west Africans in Muslim scholarship and commerce. Many of the different regions that practice Islam in West Africa can be traced back to this.

2) Arab slavetraders, just took slaves from sub-Sahara Africa to North Africa, they where not Islamic, they did not use Islam as a tool to enslave west Africans and they did not care about spreading Islam.

actually no, i do not have to distinguish between anybody, anymore than i need to distinguish between white christian missionaries or white christian slave traders
 
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