Game changing albums

[daze23]

Check the tracklisting. It's mostly the same songs. They threw it out there again once they signed with Universal and made some changes. This happened a lot with Bay Area artists after they would sign to majors.

a lot of artists in general have done this. NWA, Geto Boys, and Slum Village come to mind

 

[daze23]

A critical backlash began over the repetitive nature of his lyrics, his clean-cut image, and his perceived over-reliance on sampling others' entire hooks for the basis of his singles—criticisms also directed to his contemporary, Vanilla Ice. He was mocked in music videos by 3rd Bass (including a rap battle with MC Serch), The D.O.C., DJ Debranz, and Ice Cube. Oakland hip-hop group Digital Underground criticized him in the CD insert of their Sex Packets album by placing Hammer's picture in it and referring to him as an unknown derelict. Q Tip criticized him in "Check the Rhyme," asking, "What you say Hammer? Proper. Rap is not pop, if you call it that then stop." LL Cool J dissed him in "To tha Break of Dawn" (from the Mama Said Knock You Out album), calling Hammer an "amateur, swinging a Hammer from a bodybag [his pants]," and saying, "My old gym teacher ain't supposed to rap.", though this could have been seen as a response to Hammer calling him out in "Let's Get it Started", when he was mentioned along with Run DMC and Doug E Fresh as rappers that Hammer claimed to be better than. (LL Cool J would later compliment and commend Hammer's abilities/talents on VH-1's 100 Greatest Songs of Hip Hop, which aired in 2008). However, Ice-T came to his defense on his 1991 album O.G. Original Gangster: "A special shout out to my man M.C. Hammer: a lot of people dis you, man, but they just jealous." Ice-T later explained that he had nothing against people who were pop-rap from the start, as Hammer had been, but only against emceeswho switch from being hardcore or dirty to being pop-rap so that they can sell more records.

changed the game by getting universally dissed

thing is a lot of that came from his previous album. especially the video for Turn This Mutha Out, and that "Hammer, you ain't hittin in New York" shyt

 

[Eastside Get The Money]

Hot boyz

Those were the first little kids (besides Juve) to really talk about some vulgar street shyt

 

[daze23]

Hot boyz

Those were the first little kids (besides Juve) to really talk about some vulgar street shyt

 

[JustCKing]

Yep. Two different releases. With largely the same songs.
Either way. I never saw a video or heard a song from that album on the radio.
It wasn't pushed.

Looking at Me was on the album in 97 though.
But either way, unless you got some receipts that Timbaland factored into the other producers getting on, then we will have to disagree on this one.

I know (or assumed) Mannie wasn't negotiating. It was a little poetic license
Wendy Day helped out with the negotiating as I recall. Bird man didn't pay her
So she had Freddie Foxxx pull a gun on him in NY

That Big Tymers album got push. That song "Woah Kemosabe" aka B"Big Ballin" is on that album.

I wasn't saying Timbaland put the other producers on. I was saying Timbaland was the first of that crop of producers to breakthrough which ushered in a new era of super producers in Hip Hop.

 

[mobbinfms]

That Big Tymers album got push. That song "Woah Kemosabe" aka B"Big Ballin" is on that album.

I wasn't saying Timbaland put the other producers on. I was saying Timbaland was the first of that crop of producers to breakthrough which ushered in a new era of super producers in Hip Hop.

Pushed how?

 

[JustCKing]

Pushed how?

That album had two singles and a video. That album just didn't do anything.

 

[mobbinfms]

That album had two singles and a video. That album just didn't do anything.

I was watching and recording Rap City every day back then. Never saw it.
Watched the vide earlier today and I don't remember ever hearing that song or seeing the video. And the video is a carbon copy of Ha which I despised, so it would have stood out to me.

Do you know where they were playing the video?

 

[BmoreGorilla]

That was Jay just following the LAD blueprint.

I could make the argument that Vol 1 was Jay's most game changing album. It came out at the tail end of that Mafioso and keep it real era. RD was an extension of that. Vol 1 was the first album where a rapper proved just how authentic his drug dealing was

 

[BUSINESS AS USUAL]

Eric b n rakim paid in full
Public enemy takes a nation
Nwa straight outta compton
Nas illmatic
Slick rick adventures of
Mjb whats the 411
Snoop doggystyle
50 grodt

 

[mobbinfms]

Hot boyz

Those were the first little kids (besides Juve) to really talk about some vulgar street shyt

Mobb

 

[mobbinfms]

I could make the argument that Vol 1 was Jay's most game changing album. It came out at the tail end of that Mafioso and keep it real era. RD was an extension of that. Vol 1 was the first album where a rapper proved just how authentic his drug dealing was

You don't think he went there on RD?
And Vol 1 was where he tried to make an LAD album and it didn't connect, even though its 100 times better than Vol 2

 

[BmoreGorilla]

You don't think he went there on RD?
And Vol 1 was where he tried to make an LAD album and it didn't connect, even though its 100 times better than Vol 2

RD to me was just an extension of everything that was going on in hip hop at the time. Everybody and their mama was a don

not only that Jay was relatively unknown so I think a lot of that had to do with why that album fell under the radar when it was initially released. On Vol 1 he showed that he really was about that life when most rappers were just pretenders

 

[keon]

imo game changing albums = major impact, and a lot of the albums mentioned really didnt have a major impact on hiphop.

 

[mobbinfms]

RD to me was just an extension of everything that was going on in hip hop at the time. Everybody and their mama was a don

not only that Jay was relatively unknown so I think a lot of that had to do with why that album fell under the radar when it was initially released. On Vol 1 he showed that he really was about that life when most rappers were just pretenders

I don't know. RD was very heavy into the thought process of someone in that life. Songs like Regrets, D'Evils etc.