Agreed. Time to put the nail in the coffin for MS shady asses.
has sony started the fire?
Gamespot - Why Xbox One is Losing (And Will Lose Next Gen....)
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There's no point, let Gamescom pass and the consoles drop to hit them up with reality.And Sony won't have games?
Look at their exclusives this year ALONE on the PS3 (not including digital only/psn games): Ni No Kuni, MLB The Show, God of War Ascension, The Last of Us, Beyond 2 Souls, Dragons Crown, Gran Turismo 6, Puppeteer, Tales of Xillia.
Games are the least of my worry on the PS4. Now if you wanna argue that the exclusives THIS year on the PS4 aren't your thing. Cool.
What is Clinton, NJ like?
Let them cop the Xbox 180º
It really is a win for gamers that M$ was forced to lean back via us consumers, but they are looking beyond pathetic with all the flip flopping in an attempt to win back the very gamers that that they blatantly disrespected, most of which whom has plans to jump ship to Sony full time (i.e. me).
They burnt the bridge with a lot folks and they need to come to grips with the fact that the bridge itself is can not be repaired no matter how much they try to ensure consumers of its stability - they're really running the risk of pissing the very people off who wanted some of these things that they are now full-fledged backpedaling on.
Dudes are worried about the camera and whatnot, but at this point, I'm more concerned with the console itself. The last thing that I would want is to welcome home a bisexual console confused of its own identity.
QFT.
Their vision for the console that they worked on for years is now GONE, so what is the point? They holding on to Kinect 2.0, but most gamers won't fukk with that shyt for gaming. I know they don't want to fragment the system by completely removing and making kinect optional, but they will have no choice eventually. We'll see it next year IMO.
It really is a win for gamers that M$ was forced to lean back via us consumers, but they are looking beyond pathetic with all the flip flopping in an attempt to win back the very gamers that they blatantly disrespected, most of which whom has plans to jump ship to Sony full time (i.e. me).
They burnt the bridge with a lot folks and they need to come to grips with the fact that the bridge itself can not be repaired no matter how much they try to ensure consumers of its stability - they're really running the risk of pissing the very people off who wanted some of these things that they are now full-fledged backpedaling on.
Dudes are worried about the camera and whatnot, but at this point, I'm more concerned with the console itself. The last thing that I would want is to welcome home a bisexual console confused of its own identity
See this is what i don't get, You and some others are acting Xbox was your girl and you caught her sucking your homeboys dikk or something. When you have a emotional attachment to something its hard to think rationally. Im not defending MS but to hate on them for correcting some its ridiculous policies and making a effort, is a no win situation for you or them. I buy based on games I like period. I dont have loyalty to a company be it MS, Ford, HSBC etc.
MS Tactics in a nutshell:
" They step into a new market, use cash reserve and their ability to push out marketing and distribution get a foothold then to push out existing players, once they have enough control they profiteer. They did this with OS, word processors and office productivity suites, browsers. They attempted to do this with server OS and web technologies but they weren't able to do it well enough.
They thought they had enough control to do that with consoles but it looked like their competition still has some fight in them. The DRM was a strategy, get the publishers onboard and strangle the PS4 with exclusives. They just didn't factor that brand loyalty is not as strong with games as they had suspected."
" They step into a new market, use cash reserve and their ability to push out marketing and distribution get a foothold then to push out existing players, once they have enough control they profiteer. They did this with OS, word processors and office productivity suites, browsers. They attempted to do this with server OS and web technologies but they weren't able to do it well enough.
They thought they had enough control to do that with consoles but it looked like their competition still has some fight in them. The DRM was a strategy, get the publishers onboard and strangle the PS4 with exclusives. They just didn't factor that brand loyalty is not as strong with games as they had suspected."
MS Tactics in a nutshell:
" They step into a new market, use cash reserve and their ability to push out marketing and distribution get a foothold then to push out existing players, once they have enough control they profiteer. They did this with OS, word processors and office productivity suites, browsers. They attempted to do this with server OS and web technologies but they weren't able to do it well enough.
They thought they had enough control to do that with consoles but it looked like their competition still has some fight in them. The DRM was a strategy, get the publishers onboard and strangle the PS4 with exclusives. They just didn't factor that brand loyalty is not as strong with games as they had suspected."
Let give the simplified answer to this, MS approached this as a part of a very profitable company, Sony approached this as a way to help save its company. These two different minds sets show on how they approached the market.
Won't necessarily disagree, but that MS mindset/strategy hasn't worked in years.
Sony's fukkup on the PS3 launch with a system costing 100/200 dollars more was a softball down the middle for MS and they capitalized, esp in North America and the UK. The 360 brand wouldn't be what it is today because of that.
They had a chance to get away with their old tactics next gen, but like buddy said, they fumbled on the goal line. The worst thing about the situation IMO is trusting them again.
Dude spit the truth. The damage is done, they have no vision, and they will feel it
@Rekkapryde you my nikka, and when you are not trolling I agree with you most of time. But you always throw something in I gotta disagree with. This is going to be a long cycle and many things can happen. Was damaged done? Yes it was. Is it long lasting? I doubt it. Honestly its going to come down to games etc. Sony does have some talented studios but there's always room for new hungry ones. Look at KI, it made by a dev that his not made any blockbusters in the past, but they seem very passionate about this game and have brought in top people to help, so you never know. Its still wide open in my opinion.Won't necessarily disagree, but that MS mindset/strategy hasn't worked in years.
Sony's fukkup on the PS3 launch with a system costing 100/200 dollars more was a softball down the middle for MS and they capitalized, esp in North America and the UK. The 360 brand wouldn't be what it is today because of that.
They had a chance to get away with their old tactics next gen, but like buddy said, they fumbled on the goal line. The worst thing about the situation IMO is trusting them again.
Dude spit the truth. The damage is done, they have no vision, and they will feel it
@Rekkapryde you my nikka, and when you are not trolling I agree with you most of time. But you always throw something in I gotta disagree with. This is going to be a long cycle and many things can happen. Was damaged done? Yes it was. Is it long lasting? I doubt it. Honestly its going to come down to games etc. Sony does have some talented studios but there's always room for new hungry ones. Look at KI, it made by a dev that his not made any blockbusters in the past, but they seem very passionate about this game and have brought in top people to help, so you never know. Its still wide open in my opinion.
Sony has this gen pretty much won bruh. Not saying the XB1 won't have dope games and be a decent system, but it's gonna be ugly. The main reason is that MS will get slaughtered in sales in Europe and Asia.
Hardcore gamers have the biggest influence when a console is launching. You do realize that Nintendo "won" this gen that is about to close, but lost at the same time right? Do you even understand where I am getting at?
You admitted yourself that you are not that into games, breh you just aren't built for these type of debates. Just calling a spade a spade.
SMH, where did you remotely get the idea that I have some type of brand loyalty either way from my post? I seen what M$ had initially planned for the gamers, and I was in gist disgusted with everything that they were trying to readily force upon people. That's the bottom line and I'm not the type of dude to forgive and forget because a multi billion dollar company - who has money coming out the ass - wants to whisper sweet nothings in my ear now in an attempt to insure me that they're different all because they see an incoming freight train in the PS4, moving at the pace of a speeding bullet, which they now fear and realize could flattened them in the gaming sector after looking at their projected bottom line. You may call their policies ridiculous now, but I wonder if you would be singing that same tune if they didn't change some of them, or would you go the atypical route and spew the same rhetoric in defense of the policies that you now deem are ridiculous saying something to the effect of:
"well, the policies don't effect me either way. I have the internet, and my freaking toilet spies on me and takes a picture of me shytting mid drop, and/or I don't purchase used games anyway"
? I don't know, but I have this innate feeling that you would be defending these policies somehow if they were still in place, and even if you weren't, as I alluded to, some Xbox fans really liked some of these policies as they praised M$'s 'ambitiousness' of supposedly pushing gaming forward, all the while romanticizing of its potential (i.e. M$ online components would lead to steam like sales for games).
I'm sorry to disappoint you, but I'm not "Pro Sony", but rather I'm "pro common sense", and if I don't like what a company is doing, I'm voting with my dollars, so they can adhere to the message of "I seen what your true vision was, and I'm not having that bullshyt either way" (again, regardless if they are quick to back down now). And it seems that other consumers are doing the same.
Mister I come post a random times. I understand better than you. Yes Nintendo won on consoles sales but lost on games sales and dev support. I never said I am not into games, I said gaming is not my life, two different things. I would consider myself a casual hardcore. Love gaming but have I other interest in life. Even if PS4 has higher Pre-orders they will both sell out. So in the end its just an empty argument. After that consoles will have to sale on its merits, not fanboy delusion of grandeur.
O'Dwyer was 100% on point and you trying to claim that he has holes in his argument is ridiculous fam. Many of us have been studying the console market for 10+ years. Microsoft is in such a deep hole that I can't possibly see them recovering.