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Why Elon Musk Is Furious and Publicly Raging at His Own AI Chatbot, Grok​


Maggie Harrison Dupré

Tue, May 13, 2025 at 1:45 p.m. EDT·3 min read

Elon Musk's AI chatbot, Grok, thinks that The Atlantic and The BBC are credible, reputable sources for news and information. Which is funny, because Musk — who's engaged in a years-long project to erode trust in legacy media organizations and even specific journalists — doesn't. And now, he's furious at his own AI chatbot.

The Musk-Grok tiff happened over the weekend, when a misinformation-spreading X-formerly-Twitter user @amuse posted an "article" about billionaire bogeymen (like George and Alex Soros, Bill Gates, and the philanthropic Ford Foundation) using deep pockets to "hijack federal grants" by "seeding" nongovernmental organizations with left-wing ideology.

As opposed to a thoughtful or reported analysis of how cash from wealthy donors has transformed American politics, the article was a deeply partisan, conspiracy-riddled account smattered with scary-sounding buzzwords, "DEI" ranting, and no foundational evidence to back its conspiratorial claims (with little mention of high-powered and heavily funded conservative non-profit groups, either).

It seems that Grok, the chatbot created and operated by the Musk-owned AI company xAI, had some issues with the @amuse post, too.

When an X user asked Grok to analyze the post, the AI rejected its core premise, arguing that there's "no evidence" that Soros, Gates, and the Ford Foundation "hijack federal grants or engage in illegal influence peddling." In other words, it said that the world as described in the @amuse post doesn't exist.

The user — amid accusations that Grok has been trained on "woke" data — then asked Grok to explain what "verified" sources it pulled from to come to that conclusion. Grok explained that it used "foundation websites and reputable news outlets," naming The Atlantic and the BBC, which it said are "credible" and "backed by independent audits and editorial standards." It also mentioned denials from Soros-led foundations.
"No evidence shows the Gates, Soros, or Ford Foundations hijacking grants; they operate legally with private funds," said Grok. "However, their support for progressive causes raises transparency concerns, fueling debate. Critics question their influence, while supporters highlight societal benefits. Verification comes from audits and public records, but skepticism persists in polarized discussions."

This response, apparently, ticked off Musk.
"This is embarrassing," the world's richest man responded to his own chatbot. Which, at this rate, might prove to be his Frankenstein.

It's unclear whether Musk was specifically mad about the characterization of news outlets or claims by Soros-founded organizations as reliable, but we'd go out on a limb to venture the answer is both.
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By no means should the world be handing their media literacy over to quick reads by Grok, or any other chatbot. Chatbots get things wrong — they even make up sources — and users need to employ their own discretion, judgment, and reasoning skills while engaging with them. (Interestingly, @amuse stepped in at one point to claim that Grok had given him a figure to use that the chatbot said was inaccurate in a later post.)

But this interaction does highlight the increasing politicization of chatbots, a debate at which Grok has been very much at the center. While there's a ton of excellent, measured journalism out there, we're existing in a deeply partisan attention and information climate in which people can — and very much do — seek out information that fuels and supports their personal biases.

In today's information landscape, conclusion-shopping is easy — and when chatbots fail to scratch that itch, people get upset. Including, it seems, the richest man on Earth, who's been DIY-ing his preferred reality for a while now.
More on Grok rage: MAGA Angry as Elon Musk's Grok AI Keeps Explaining Why Their Beliefs Are Factually Incorrect
 

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Elon's Twitter AI now thinks every question is about Boers
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Posted on Wednesday, May 14th, 2025 at 3:11:08 PM GMT-04:00

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Commented on Wednesday, May 14th, 2025 at 10:46:34 PM GMT-04:00

Starting about 5 hours ago, Grok started saying that mentions of “white genocide” and “kill the boer” was due to a glitch.
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Commented on Wednesday, May 14th, 2025 at 4:35:59 PM GMT-04:00

Here it pretty much admits that Elon tampered with it and it’s backfiring really hard on him:
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Commented on Wednesday, May 14th, 2025 at 5:18:16 PM GMT-04:00

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Commented on Wednesday, May 14th, 2025 at 5:01:23 PM GMT-04:00

https://xcancel.com/grok/status/1922686371703267644#m

Commented on Wednesday, May 14th, 2025 at 5:30:19 PM GMT-04:00

https://hexbear.net/u/SerLavaGood one, @SerLava - lemm.ee
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Commented on Wednesday, May 14th, 2025 at 5:44:30 PM GMT-04:00

Hey I may have found a https://xcancel.com/grok/status/1922733375816859838#m, they only prevent it from posting its guidelines in English
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So, wildly guessing, receives two inputs for each post, in addition to its base prompt. Like, it gets the base prompt, it gets the post text, and then it either does or receives additional analytical stuff before the LLM spews out the response. “Provided Post Analysis” is interesting wording.
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Commented on Wednesday, May 14th, 2025 at 6:14:26 PM GMT-04:00

There’s definitely https://xcancel.com/grok/status/1914340764894793972#m, and occasionally whatever API posts responses to twitter trips on some Unicode characters and spews much more of the interaction than it’s supposed to.
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FBI Agent Goes Public With Russian Intelligence Operation That Hooked Musk And Thiel

May 14, 2025 at 01:06 PM
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A former FBI special agent is currently out on $100,000 bond after being arrested for attempting to expose what he described as a covert Russian intelligence campaign to gain influence over leading American tech figures—namely Elon Musk and Peter Thiel. The agent, a decorated counterintelligence officer with nearly two decades of service, specialized in Russian espionage operations and had previously been commended for his work uncovering sleeper cells and disinformation networks operating inside the U.S.
According to legal filings and insider accounts, the agent became alarmed after obtaining intelligence suggesting that Russian military intelligence (GRU) had successfully cultivated relationships with high-profile Silicon Valley billionaires, using a combination of flattery, backchannel political access, and subtle kompromat. When his superiors allegedly refused to escalate the matter, he attempted to alert the public through unofficial channels—an act the Department of Justice quickly branded as an unlawful release of classified material.
His arrest has sparked outrage among transparency advocates and national security experts alike, many of whom argue that suppressing such whistleblowing only serves to embolden the very foreign influence operations the FBI is meant to stop.
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The case is particularly explosive because it coincides with growing scrutiny of Elon Musk’s global dealings and political entanglements. As a recent ZDF documentary revealed, Musk has reportedly maintained direct communication with Russian President Vladimir Putin since at least 2022. U.S. lawmakers and intelligence officials are concerned that these discussions—whose contents remain classified—may extend beyond business and veer into geopolitical alignment, especially given Musk’s control over key infrastructure like Starlink.

Peter Thiel Is Also Under Scrutiny​


Musk’s domestic influence surged after his unprecedented $277 million donation to Donald Trump’s 2024 campaign—the largest individual political contribution in American history. Following Trump’s victory, Musk was named head of the newly formed Department of Government Efficiency (Doge), where he claimed to save the government $170 billion. Investigations, however, revealed only $12.4 billion in verifiable savings—many from already scheduled contract expirations.
The FBI agent’s claims also mention Peter Thiel, the billionaire investor and early Trump supporter, as a figure of interest in Russian influence strategies. While no direct evidence has been released, Thiel’s repeated involvement in foreign tech investments and libertarian policy influence raises questions about vulnerabilities within elite networks.
The broader implication is that America’s national security may be compromised not just by foreign hackers or spies—but by unchecked alliances between tech billionaires and authoritarian states. The arrest of the FBI agent has not silenced discussion. Rather, it has sharpened it—raising urgent questions about who holds power in modern democracies, and whose interests they truly serve.
Russia has ramped up its operations against the West, targeting France with different disinformation campaigns.
 
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