General Trump Administration F**kery Thread (2025-2029)

[Outlaw]

Are you even black?

Should you be asking that question when your race is a coli meme?

 

[Poetical Poltergeist]

 

[br82186]

 

[King Kreole]

Haha, judging by that quote I’m glad I don’t know who he is. Arguing for less minority groups when white supremacy was more institutional than it is now is pure insanity.

You’re basically a pawn of white nationalists

A. Philip Randolph was one of the most important civil rights figures in the history of this country. He was the primary architect of the merging of the black rights movement and the labor rights movement, and he started and led one of the most important black labor unions in history. He's on the Mount Rushmore of black civil rights leaders with Martin and Malcolm and Du Bois and Douglass. But because he was an avowed socialist and this uniting of racial politics with labor politics is inconvenient to neoliberal ideology, he's been deep-sixed from the mainstream consciousness.

As for the quote, it represents one of the primary fault-lines of the Interwar civil rights movement. It was quite common to see restrictionist arguments like Randolph's quote in black newspapers, usually coming from the angle of economic scarcity, but sometimes also from negative ethnic prejudices and stereotypes. You have to remember, this was a precarious and nascent time for black identity due to American nationalism/patriotism taking a strong foothold in the black community after WW1. You definitely had some integrationist civil rights leaders as well, but neither position had a dominant hand in the community.

So I don't think it's fair to judge Randolph as a pawn of white nationalists for making that quote, he was looking at it from a black labor rights and discrimination-based scarcity perspective in an explicitly racially segregated time period. America's economic model was far more ethnically/racially segregated than it is now, so it's not really fair to judge him by today's context. He's a super interesting figure though, I'd suggest looking him up. His worldview and contributions are starting to become more relevant than they have been in many decades.

 

[Outlaw]

A. Philip Randolph was one of the most important civil rights figures in the history of this country. He was the primary architect of the merging of the black rights movement and the labor rights movement, and he started and led one of the most important black labor unions in history. He's on the Mount Rushmore of black civil rights leaders with Martin and Malcolm and Du Bois and Douglass. But because he was an avowed socialist and this uniting of racial politics with labor politics is inconvenient to neoliberal ideology, he's been deep-sixed from the mainstream consciousness.

As for the quote, it represents one of the primary fault-lines of the Interwar civil rights movement. It was quite common to see restrictionist arguments like Randolph's quote in black newspapers, usually coming from the angle of economic scarcity, but sometimes also from negative ethnic prejudices and stereotypes. You have to remember, this was a precarious and nascent time for black identity due to American nationalism/patriotism taking a strong foothold in the black community after WW1. You definitely had some integrationist civil rights leaders as well, but neither position had a dominant hand in the community.

So I don't think it's fair to judge Randolph as a pawn of white nationalists for making that quote, he was looking at it from a black labor rights and discrimination-based scarcity perspective in an explicitly racially segregated time period. America's economic model was far more ethnically/racially segregated than it is now, so it's not really fair to judge him by today's context. He's a super interesting figure though, I'd suggest looking him up. His worldview and contributions are starting to become more relevant than they have been in many decades.

Excuse my ignorance, nap’s quote tainted my judgement. I’ll look into him but I don’t like racial discrimination in any forms

 

[WTFisWallace?]

Our academic class thinks they’re activists

Spoiler: Fugitive Slave Act / Catcher Complicity

Eddie seems to think our history of black slavery equates to voluntarily breaking immigration law

they’re wilding

You posted these back to back without a bit of irony huh

 

[Poetical Poltergeist]

 

[King Kreole]

Excuse my ignorance, nap’s quote tainted my judgement. I’ll look into him but I don’t like racial discrimination in any forms

Yeah I'm not a fan of Randolph's message in that quote either, I just think it's missing crucial context when deployed as some sort of contemporary supporting evidence for the position of modern bigots. Randolph and I are both socialists, but my socialism is universalist and directs me towards a universal comradeship that doesn't allow for pitting ethnic working classes against each other, whereas Randolph's socialism was more narrowly circumscribed around his ethnic grouping, which is understandable given the times. The better retort to nap is not that A. Philip Randolph is a "bad guy", it's that his quote is not relevant to this current context because our economic, social, and immigration situation is fundamentally different than it was in the 1920s. Our current economy is not as ethnically segregated as it was in that period, despite what these black conservatives would have you believe.

 

[BiggWebb79]

 

[Loose]

He can get away with it to because moderate ruling class dems dont stand for anything, they havent said one word about ICE or his deportions

 

[Poetical Poltergeist]

He can get away with it to because moderate ruling class dems dont stand for anything, they havent said one word about ICE or his deportions

Dont matter if they say a thing, they have no control or weight. His rich buddies called him and said,

"Sir! Wr are losing good people with your ICE raids on our beautiful hotels, sir! Please use your supreme power to stop this! We gave you millions and we need our illegal workers. Please raid other establishments and take their workers not ours. Sir!"

 

[Loose]

Dont matter if they say a thing, they have no control or weight. His rich buddies called him and said,

"Sir! Wr are losing good people with your ICE raids on our beautiful hotels, sir! Please use your supreme power to stop this! We gave you millions and we need our illegal workers. Please raid other establishments and take their workers not ours. Sir!"

Of course but it's not going to be a positive for the democrat party because they havent actually said they stand for anything or disagree with him. Dems want to sit in the comfortable center and not make any statements outside of being against antisemitism in 2025

 

[Rice N Beans]

Doofies sent buses up here and everything got sorted eventually, now they're raiding. Talk about manufacturing a crisis.

 

[Poetical Poltergeist]

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Epstein… showed Michael Wolff photos of Trump…and Epstein…went to Moscow?






This is the longer full interview…Trump is the one who ratted out Epstein to the Palm Beach police?!