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All I did is ask you if you would demand your 2028 candidate abolish ICE and you called me a reactionary and asked me if I would also call for the abolishment of HHS and DOT.

Then you continued your defense of ICE in the next post after it was pointed out that ICE was created in 2003. You made the claim that we needed the function of ICE and it only needs to be reformed.

I was taken back that anyone could be defending ICE right now while they are functioning as Trump’s own gestapo spreading terror across the country.

Then I remembered this is what Blue MAGA does. You never want to adress the structural systemic problems Healthcare or the occupation of our government by a foreign country, You just want to make easy cosmetic changes so you can go to brunch.
“If Hillary won, we’d be at brunch” was a self ether that they still haven’t picked up on.
 

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Brooklyn Park Police Chief Mark Bruley: "The last 2 weeks we as a law enforcement community have been receiving endless complaints about civil rights violations in our streets from US citizens. What we're hearing is they're being stopped in traffic stops or on the street with no cause and being demanded to show paperwork to determine if they are here legally. We started hearing from our police officers the same complaints as they fell victim to this while off duty. Every one of these individuals is a person of color ... it has to stop"
 

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All I did is ask you if you would demand your 2028 candidate abolish ICE and you called me a reactionary and asked me if I would also call for the abolishment of HHS and DOT.

Then you continued your defense of ICE in the next post after it was pointed out that ICE was created in 2003. You made the claim that we needed the function of ICE and it only needs to be reformed.

I was taken back that anyone could be defending ICE right now while they are functioning as Trump’s own gestapo spreading terror across the country.

Then I remembered this is what Blue MAGA does. You never want to adress the structural systemic problems Healthcare or the occupation of our government by a foreign country, You just want to make easy cosmetic changes so you can go to brunch.

Sloganeering of the worst kind if you don’t/cant deal with the root issues. Agencies did immigration enforcement before “ICE” and someone will do it after they’re eventually abolished/name changed. Tighten the scope of their mission so what’s happening now never happens again. I think the majority of the public still have no issues with removing violent criminals. Turning this into some abolish the police right/left type of thing is going to lead to the same dead end and that cant happen again.

My point about hhs, dot, and etc is they’re being mismanaged and people are dying so should we abolish them as well. The answer is obviously no(hopefully).

This isn’t a defense of ice. You’re a miserable idiot

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Having a candidate commit to “abolishing ice” is completely meaningless. Trump has done the same thing with the national guard, other federal agencies, and arguably the local police over the rights of citizens and non citizens. That’s why I even stressed dealing with the root issue in my first sentence and tightening the scope of xyz mission which frankly won’t do enough when this administration and courts don’t care about the constitution.

You and your ilk decided this man should be in power. You’ve gotta live with that. You’ve enabled this. Everything else you’ve got going on right now is projecting and misplaced anger same goes for mantis whatever the fukk
 
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This isn’t a defense of ice. You’re a miserable idiot

:mjlol:

Having a candidate commit to “abolishing ice” is completely meaningless. Trump has done the same thing with the national guard, other federal agencies, and arguably the local police over the rights of citizens and non citizens. That’s why I even stressed dealing with the root issue in my first sentence and tightening the scope of xyz mission which frankly won’t do enough when this administration and courts don’t care about the constitution.

You and your ilk decided this man should be in power. You’ve gotta live with that. You’ve enabled this. Everything else you’ve got going on right now is projecting and misplaced anger same goes for mantis whatever the fukk

If you cannot bring yourself to push for the abolishment of ICE after everything we have seen and you instead want to “narrow” the scope of ICE because people still want to remove immigrant criminals”, tells me everything about you.

ICE has completely disqualified itself in every way imaginable, but you argue in their favor.

Then you bytch and moan endlessly when people lose hope and stay home instead of voting for your preferred milquetoast candidate.
 

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