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:dahell: Dems are center right.

Did Ole warlord Biden or Kamala come to the defense of undocumented workers or did they promise to be just as harsh with deportations? Although the did promise that they would be nicer when doing it.
Why is being pro illegal immigration considered progressive or far left?

This stance doesn’t make any sense at all.

How you for the expansion of social services for citizens but ok with undocumented using services that should be designated for citizens
 

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Why is being pro illegal immigration considered progressive or far left?

This stance doesn’t make any sense at all.

How you for the expansion of social services for citizens but ok with undocumented using services that should be designated for citizens

My problem is Democrats let the Republicans frame the debate and then tried to out cruel the Republicans.

Immigrants in general and undocumented immigrants in particular are a critical part of the economy. They deserve better than to be demonized by both parties. That would have been a good starting point for debate.

Dems couldn’t even do that.
 

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Enforcing immigration laws is not demonizing immigrants.

I know this, because I hear immigrants say this all the time.

Dems fukked themselves on the border issue. Right wing propaganda is king but Dems didn't even try.




This was talked about it was just talked about from the progressive left about how these were bad things and Dems can’t avoid arguing with its own people and republicans.

Dems just gotta stop trying to appease the left on nonsense
 

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My problem is Democrats let the Republicans frame the debate and then tried to out cruel the Republicans.

Immigrants in general and undocumented immigrants in particular are a critical part of the economy. They deserve better than to be demonized by both parties. That would have been a good starting point for debate.

Dems couldn’t even do that.
They’re only integral to our system because they’re being exploited by businesses.

American citizens no matter their political affiliation largely want immigration laws enforced.

I don’t see how undocumented, un licensed, un vaccinated, un insured people are beneficial to society.

They deserve better? They deserve the right to apply for citizenship.
 

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They’re only integral to our system because they’re being exploited by businesses.

American citizens no matter their political affiliation largely want immigration laws enforced.

I don’t see how undocumented, un licensed, un vaccinated, un insured people are beneficial to society.

They deserve better? They deserve the right to apply for citizenship.

Seems to me like you should be happy. You are getting your anti immigration with no Dem party chaser.

That’s why people who don’t like immigrants voted for Republicans. Real Coke is better than the diet shyt.
 
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Enforcing immigration laws is not demonizing immigrants.

I know this, because I hear immigrants say this all the time.


This was talked about it was just talked about from the progressive left about how these were bad things and Dems can’t avoid arguing with its own people and republicans.

Dems just gotta stop trying to appease the left on nonsense
I agree. Most progressives aren't gonna hold their ground. They would still vote dem over trump. Dems just didn't get out in front of any of the major issues that republicans went full ham on, namely the border and inflation. And it fukked them, which fukked us.
 

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Trump wants everything back with the states. Abortion. Disaster aid. Education.

Whats next, each state needs their own military?

Every state needs its own military. If we are attacked we will not protect you.
 

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Trump wants everything back with the states. Abortion. Disaster aid. Education.

Whats next, each state needs their own military?

Every state needs its own military. If we are attacked we will not protect you.
All I know is the last time we had all this talk about state’s rights a civil war broke out.
 

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News: President Trump has terminated Dr. Anthony Fauci's security deal that was being provided and paid for by the National Institutes of Health, a source familiar tells me. It was pulled last night. Fauci has since hired his own private security that he'll pay for himself.
 

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Seems to me like you should be happy. You are getting your anti immigration with no Dem party chaser.

That’s why people who don’t like immigrants voted for Republicans. Real Coke is better than the diet shyt.
Republicans are anti immigration because they’re racist.
 
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