Germanwings A320 plane crash in southern France (150 dead) update:co-pilot deliberately crashed it
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RealAssanova
Vagitarian
Egyptair 990 and Silkair 185 are highly dubious reports. In both cases you have the NTSB brought in to investigate the crash of a US built aircraft, both times claiming pilot suicide, both times disputed by the aviation authorities of the airlines country. Sounds like a hell of a convenient coincidence to me.
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RealAssanova
Vagitarian
Underneath the graphic that you're basing it on an official said it would be physically impossible.
Does the timeframe given support that it climbed again or is it most likely a "glitch" of some sort.
(USAF) radar sites indicated that the airplane's descent stopped about 01:50:38 and that the airplane subsequently climbed to about 25,000 feet msl and changed heading from 80º to 140º before it started a second descent, which continued until the airplane impacted the ocean.
all after the engines were "supposedly" shut off.
ye uh, don't quote me again.
88m3
Fast Money & Foreign Objects
TF is going on in here
Not to sure, I can tell I have a few people on ignore though
I really don't understand how people are saying there should be more safety to prevent this from happening, there is always going to be a risk in anything in life.
Egyptair crashed outside Nantucket. What "local authorities" are you talking about?
R.I.P to the fallen ones. I'm tremendously petrified of flying on a plane and don't know the outcome of it. Goes to show that anyone in this world will go crazy and destroy everyone's life cause they're an misanthropist. My condolences goes out to the fallen ones family. Frightening story...
Uh, you don't need to create any conspiracy theories to know that airlines and their government sponsors will do anything possible to deny the idea that their pilots are unreliable. That's not a "hell of a convenient coincidence", that's basic human nature.
What do you expect them to say? "Oh yes, we had an unreliable suicidal pilot flying that plane, but we promise to do better next time. Fly Egypt Air!" Of course they're not going to admit that happened - it would kill their business.
88m3
Fast Money & Foreign Objects
pretty sure most airplane accidents are ascribed to pilot error...
I'll try and penetrate the crazy here.
1. It's the French authorities who said that the pilot crashed intentionally. NOT the Americans. Since the French are the ones who joined the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank along with the Germans, that just shoots your whole theory to hell right there.
2. How many people would have to be involved in your crazy Japan crash conspiracy? Everyone who decided it, the entire chain of command, the technicians who made the crash actually happen, all the people who had to look the other way while they did it. All those people have to be cool with hundreds of innocent civilians dying. And in 30 years, not ONE of them had a coming to Jesus moment, left a deathbed testimony, told some friend or family member or let the truth loose while drunk one night....riiiight. The powers that be can't even cover up the little crap they do without it getting leaked out left and right, but they managed to keep THIS covered up?
3. You claim that it's difficult for pilot error to crash a plane nowadays, even if the pilot intentionally decides to crash it. That's just BS.
4. HTF would the Americans make a German-based plane crash in France without everyone in Europe knowing what happened? And WTF would the Germans, the Japanese, or anyone else just keep quiet about it and just do what they were told?
5. Your entire theory relies on the idea that nations like Germany and France aren't scared enough of the USA to go against their will...but that a single plane crash will suddenly change their minds and make them meek little obedient puppets. Come on now. If the USA/Zionists/NWO/WWE/whoever is really so scary to them, then why did they go against their will in the first place? And why would a few civilians dead in one plane crash suddenly change their minds?
6. What would Germany have to lose by shouting out the truth to the world? If more German planes crashed, that would just prove them right, and the Zionists would be exposed. So what would Germany possibly be afraid of here?
You guys really are brainwashed. You have to jump through so many mental hoops to make these crazy theories hold.
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It's definitely common, which goes another step in proving thekyuke wrong. But "pilot error" sounds normal. "Pilot went suicidal and crashed the plane on purpose" scares the crap out of people. That's the kind of publicity that few airlines are going to want.
Exiled Martian
Was young I couldn't do good, now I can't do Bad
The trouble is you are now designing a system to cater for a suicidal pilot... which rather admits there could be such individuals out there & this causes further grievance/aggravation (in form of bureaucracy/extra security checks etc) to the men & women upfront entrusted with your lives who are already over worked/stressed working long duty hours as it is. Plus cost is the primary driving factor with the LCC (low cost carriers) business model that the likes of German Wings,Southwest (in US), Ryanair , Easy jet etc operate. An extra toilet = less sardines packed in a shiny aluminium profit driven tube = less £££/$$$ you get the point.
I just don't see how you can "fix" the problem of a pilot wanting to down a plane. Sure, you could bring in measures to make this particular situation less likely, but what is to stop a pilot in control of the aircraft stuffing it into a row of houses (or the airport terminal) on descent. Just like posts in here reference there have already been a few documented incidents of pilot suicides in the air which have taken the lives of many passengers. This is the first Western one that I am aware of. Equally there have been a number of cases of both young and middle-aged pilots taking their own lives on their own, either on the ground or airborne and solo. In an average population, suicide does happen regularly. It is inevitable that the same risk applies to the pilot profession.
Naturally the industry will now be faced with the usual call for "something" to be done. But what?
Eventually this is a matter of trust which we have to have in people. A train driver, bus driver, surgeon, ship captain, the list goes on forever of people who individually hold our lives in their hands. Even with an extra member of staff on the flight deck an a/c can be crashed on purpose in moments.
Who is going to prevent the FO or Captain suddenly stamping sudden full rudder at M0.81 at FL380 & inducing rapid descent with crazy bank angle pulling all sorts of negative G's?
Is a flight attendant going to stop him switching off the flight control computers and applying full forward side stick?
Of course, the answer is no. Sad business really....Its fukked up that there is no crystal clear concise way of mitigating this out come COMPLETELY. Also latest rumours suggest he had a problem with Depression, apparently my man took a break during commercial flight training due to stress/depression/ lack of pusssyy woes.
FYI (to the non aviators) : A considerable issue is that if a pilot goes to the company and says he is stressed or depressed or suffering any diminished mental capacity, he is usually taken off line and a black mark put against his name. Even if the condition is a passing one (e.g. due to a divorce, death in the family, financial woes), the pilot will still be earmarked as 'one to watch'. This in itself would mean that the system is operating as it is supposed to, but unfortunately any real or perceived reduction in a pilots capacity to handle stress will haunt his CV forever. Medical departments know what is at stake and err on the side of caution in most cases.
Couple this with the fact that there are no loss of licence policies that cover diminished mental capacity/mental illness, and coming forward to say you think you have a problem is as good as tearing up your pay check and kissing your career goodbye.
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Abdi
All Star
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-32081681
Germanwings crash: Co-pilot 'treated for depression'
The man suspected of deliberately crashing a Germanwings A320 plane in the French Alps required treatment for depression, German media say.
Regular assessments were recommended in Andreas Lubitz's official notes after a serious episode some years ago.
The Barcelona-Duesseldorf plane crashed on Tuesday, killing 150 people.
Data from the plane's voice recorder suggest Mr Lubitz purposely started a descent as the pilot was locked out of the cockpit.
Several airlines have now pledged to change their rules to ensure at least two crew members are present in the cockpit at all times.
Police have searched two German properties used by Mr Lubitz, taking away boxes and a computer.
'Heavily depressive'
When Mr Lubitz finished training in 2009, he was diagnosed with a serious depressive episode and went on to receive treatment for a year and a half, the German news site Bild reports.
Internal documents quoted by Bild and German broadcaster ARD say a note on Mr Lubitz's aviation authority file recommended regular psychological assessment.
Germanwings crash: Co-pilot 'treated for depression'
The man suspected of deliberately crashing a Germanwings A320 plane in the French Alps required treatment for depression, German media say.
Regular assessments were recommended in Andreas Lubitz's official notes after a serious episode some years ago.
The Barcelona-Duesseldorf plane crashed on Tuesday, killing 150 people.
Data from the plane's voice recorder suggest Mr Lubitz purposely started a descent as the pilot was locked out of the cockpit.
Several airlines have now pledged to change their rules to ensure at least two crew members are present in the cockpit at all times.
Police have searched two German properties used by Mr Lubitz, taking away boxes and a computer.
'Heavily depressive'
When Mr Lubitz finished training in 2009, he was diagnosed with a serious depressive episode and went on to receive treatment for a year and a half, the German news site Bild reports.
Internal documents quoted by Bild and German broadcaster ARD say a note on Mr Lubitz's aviation authority file recommended regular psychological assessment.
Ethnic Vagina Finder
The Great Paper Chaser
Why can't the CAC just be crazy. Crazy is simple crazy is reliable, and crazy gives closure. That nacac was crazy. End of discussion.
Sometimes people just go crazy for no reason.
Sometimes people just go crazy for no reason.