Germanwings A320 plane crash in southern France (150 dead) update:co-pilot deliberately crashed it
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I don't wanna go out in an accident
I don't wanna go out in an accident
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An Update...
The best theory I've heard given the evidence is 'a explosive depressurization with a malfunctioning oxygen mask and an inaccurate altitude input that was too low, possibly as the pilot was losing consciousness. Sadly there wasn't enough time below 14k to recover.
It explains the fact the plane didn't deviate course, and also explains the steady, constant descent into terrain.'
The best theory I've heard given the evidence is 'a explosive depressurization with a malfunctioning oxygen mask and an inaccurate altitude input that was too low, possibly as the pilot was losing consciousness. Sadly there wasn't enough time below 14k to recover.
It explains the fact the plane didn't deviate course, and also explains the steady, constant descent into terrain.'
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what ?
an explosive depressurization? I guess they don't know what caused that yet?
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Germanwings Pilot Reportedly Locked Out of Cockpit Before Crash That Killed 150 People
By Sally Hayden
March 25, 2015 | 8:10 pm
A search and rescue operation is continuing in the French Alps, as officials attempt to understand exactly what caused Tuesday's plane crash tragedy that is thought to have killed 150 people.
An Airbus A320 aircraft crashed in a remote and mountainous region of southern France just before 11am, with 144 passengers and six crew members on board. The Germanwings flight was traveling from the Spanish city of Barcelona to Düsseldorf, Germany.
The crash occurred just over 90 miles north of Nice, between the cities of Digne-les-Bains and Barcelonette. The impact reportedly happened after eight minutes of descent, and the plane sent out no distress signal, but further evidence is still emerging. One of the aircraft's black box flight recorders has been recovered and is currently being analyzed.
According to the New York Times, evidence from a cockpit voice recorder indicated one pilot was locked out of the cockpit before the plane's descent and unable to get back in.
A senior military official involved in the investigation told the Times there was a "very smooth, very cool" conversation between the pilots during the early part of the flight, followed by a panicked effort by one pilot to reenter the cockpit.
"The guy outside is knocking lightly on the door and there is no answer," the investigator told the Times. "And then he hits the door stronger and no answer. There is never an answer… You can hear he is trying to smash the door down."
In a press conference on Wednesday afternoon, Rémi Jouty, the head of the French "Bureau d'enquêtes et d'Analyses" (BEA) said that they had been able to get data from the first black box. However, he added, "so far, we don't have enough evidence to support assumptions about the reasons explaining why the aircraft crashed." Jouty said the BEA had managed to extract an audio file from the cockpit voice recorder, but refused to go into more detail.
"At this point, we are not shutting any thesis down," Jouty said. Jouty added that he was "optimistic" about finding the second box, and that the BEA in conjunction with its German and Spanish counterparts.
A released image of the plane's recovered "black box." Photo via Bureau d'Enquêtes et d'Analyses.
Speaking from Cologne, Germany, where the airline is based, Germanwings CEO Thomas Winkelmann mentioned the cancelation of some further flights because crew members didn't want to fly for personal reasons and he said that this was "understandable."
"We are a small family," Winkelmann said. "Everybody knows everyone else in Germanwings."
A full list of the passengers and staff who were on board has yet to be released, but none are expected to have survived.
Related: German plane crashes in French Alps with 150 people on board. Read more here.
At least 72 of the 144 passengers are believed to have been German. These included a group of 16 students and two teachers from Joseph Koenig high school in Haltern am See. The pupils had been participating in an exchange program with a school near Barcelona.
Germanwings, the budget airline owned by national carrier Lufthansa, has reportedly offered to fly the families of the students to the crash site, but none have so far availedthemselves of the offer.
British Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond has said that there were at least three British citizens on board the plane. At least 35 passengers are thought to have been Spanish, while other individuals came from countries including Colombia, Mexico, Japan, Israel, Argentina, Venezuela, and the US. Two babies were also apparently among those on the plane when it went down.
German, French, and Spanish leaders Angela Merkel, Francois Hollande, and Mariano Rajoy visited the scene of the crash, where they were briefed on the search operation and thanked the rescue workers there.
https://news.vice.com/article/offic...crash-in-which-150-died?utm_source=vicenewsfb
Germanwings Pilot Reportedly Locked Out of Cockpit Before Crash That Killed 150 People
By Sally Hayden
March 25, 2015 | 8:10 pm
A search and rescue operation is continuing in the French Alps, as officials attempt to understand exactly what caused Tuesday's plane crash tragedy that is thought to have killed 150 people.
An Airbus A320 aircraft crashed in a remote and mountainous region of southern France just before 11am, with 144 passengers and six crew members on board. The Germanwings flight was traveling from the Spanish city of Barcelona to Düsseldorf, Germany.
The crash occurred just over 90 miles north of Nice, between the cities of Digne-les-Bains and Barcelonette. The impact reportedly happened after eight minutes of descent, and the plane sent out no distress signal, but further evidence is still emerging. One of the aircraft's black box flight recorders has been recovered and is currently being analyzed.
According to the New York Times, evidence from a cockpit voice recorder indicated one pilot was locked out of the cockpit before the plane's descent and unable to get back in.
A senior military official involved in the investigation told the Times there was a "very smooth, very cool" conversation between the pilots during the early part of the flight, followed by a panicked effort by one pilot to reenter the cockpit.
"The guy outside is knocking lightly on the door and there is no answer," the investigator told the Times. "And then he hits the door stronger and no answer. There is never an answer… You can hear he is trying to smash the door down."
In a press conference on Wednesday afternoon, Rémi Jouty, the head of the French "Bureau d'enquêtes et d'Analyses" (BEA) said that they had been able to get data from the first black box. However, he added, "so far, we don't have enough evidence to support assumptions about the reasons explaining why the aircraft crashed." Jouty said the BEA had managed to extract an audio file from the cockpit voice recorder, but refused to go into more detail.
"At this point, we are not shutting any thesis down," Jouty said. Jouty added that he was "optimistic" about finding the second box, and that the BEA in conjunction with its German and Spanish counterparts.
A released image of the plane's recovered "black box." Photo via Bureau d'Enquêtes et d'Analyses.
Speaking from Cologne, Germany, where the airline is based, Germanwings CEO Thomas Winkelmann mentioned the cancelation of some further flights because crew members didn't want to fly for personal reasons and he said that this was "understandable."
"We are a small family," Winkelmann said. "Everybody knows everyone else in Germanwings."
A full list of the passengers and staff who were on board has yet to be released, but none are expected to have survived.
Related: German plane crashes in French Alps with 150 people on board. Read more here.
At least 72 of the 144 passengers are believed to have been German. These included a group of 16 students and two teachers from Joseph Koenig high school in Haltern am See. The pupils had been participating in an exchange program with a school near Barcelona.
Germanwings, the budget airline owned by national carrier Lufthansa, has reportedly offered to fly the families of the students to the crash site, but none have so far availedthemselves of the offer.
British Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond has said that there were at least three British citizens on board the plane. At least 35 passengers are thought to have been Spanish, while other individuals came from countries including Colombia, Mexico, Japan, Israel, Argentina, Venezuela, and the US. Two babies were also apparently among those on the plane when it went down.
German, French, and Spanish leaders Angela Merkel, Francois Hollande, and Mariano Rajoy visited the scene of the crash, where they were briefed on the search operation and thanked the rescue workers there.
https://news.vice.com/article/offic...crash-in-which-150-died?utm_source=vicenewsfb
Germanwings Pilot Was Locked Out of Cockpit Before Crash in France
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/26/world/europe/germanwings-airbus-crash.html?_r=0
PARIS — As officials struggled Wednesday to explain why a jet with 150 people on board crashed in relatively clear skies, an investigator said evidence from a cockpit voice recorder indicated one pilot left the cockpit before the plane’s descent and was unable to get back in.
A senior military official involved in the investigation described “very smooth, very cool” conversation between the pilots during the early part of the flight from Barcelona to Düsseldorf. Then the audio indicated that one of the pilots left the cockpit and could not re-enter.
“The guy outside is knocking lightly on the door and there is no answer,” the investigator said. “And then he hits the door stronger and no answer. There is never an answer.”
He said, “You can hear he is trying to smash the door down.”
While the audio seemed to give some insight into the circumstances leading up to the Germanwings crash, it also left many questions unanswered.
Damn. Maybe they should install thumb readers so pilots can open the door from outside?
Foul play?
Foul play?
88m3
Fast Money & Foreign Objects
Sounds like a bad idea, breh, I've seen some movies...Well I think they would have mentioned if the co-pilot screamed Allahu Akbar...
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Futuristic Eskimo
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Pilot inside the cockpit couldve had a heart attack with the door locked, locked himself in and let it go down, etc. Well probably never know.
