Germanwings A320 plane crash in southern France (150 dead) update:co-pilot deliberately crashed it

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Can't really blame those measures but the co-pilot... This was a worst case scenario type of stuff. It could even be possible that this scenario was never imagined.
People are paid good money to think of all these situations......
it would be extremely short sighted to think what if 'one of the pilots' was on the take....
so are the terrorists smarter then the designers :francis:
 

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Questions i always ask was anyone on that plane worth killing?
 

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People are paid good money to think of all these situations......
it would be extremely short sighted to think what if 'one of the pilots' was on the take....
so are the terrorists smarter then the designers :francis:
I said I had no knowledge of the aviation world so that's why I said that could be a scenario. I never affirmed it.
And yeah terrorists are sometimes smarter than the designers, that's how security measures evolve.
 

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If he's kicking the door everybody would be able to hear that commotion

He was probably yelling as well
you think he could have just rushed the cockpit with some passengers at a certain point, there was like a 7 minute descent.

The plane wasn't nose diving was it @RealAssanova
 

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Airbus video in case of urgency in the deck.



We can see that if the code is rightly entered there is a 30 second window in which there is 3 possibilities from the person in the deck (unlock, norm (default) and lock) and in which the door stays locked. If nothing is done from inside the deck, the door automatically opens.

So if it's the same method was existing in that flight, that could mean that either :
- the pilot and/or the hostess/es entered the wrong code (or didn't remember it) while the co-pilot was still breathing but incapacitated thus not responding.
- the pilot and/or the hostess/es entered the right code but were denied by the co-pilot during the 30 second window
 
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you think he could have just rushed the cockpit with some passengers at a certain point, there was like a 7 minute descent.

The plane wasn't nose diving was it @RealAssanova
All those doors were reinforced after 9/11

Sad situation, i can't imagine what was going through that pilots mind as he was kicking that door
 

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My greatest fear was realized
When we started putting guarded doors in airplanes post 9/11 my initial thought was
'what if we get a maniac pilot'
or
what if a supposed terrorist does get access to the cockpit solo

See in the aviation industry we always have backup plans
there is no backup plan to Airbus's door issue
If the pilot doesnt want you in.
you simply cant get it

It sucks
But now we need to go back and review this

To me its like the man who holds the nuclear launch codes
not only 1 person can arm it,
it takes 2 so no one man has the power

So in this case we need to take a step back and review this

I dont think the locked door thing is of the same importance that we once thought
If a terrorist wanted in the cockpit for some reason
its the job of the 100 plus passengers to make sure he doesnt get in
its simple
So the armed door is unnecessary

Also
3 people need to posses the code if they do decide to keep the door armed
Both pilots and the head stewardess

My coworker tried to make the point of what if the head stewardess has a gun to her head
oh well
1 person isnt worth 200+
and that person with the gun doesnt have 200 bullets

Passengers should be more proactive in protecting there lives
and I think passengers are post 9/11​
 
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