Getting a good job without a degree

Richard Wright

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Um no. A lot of enrolled agents use to work for the IRS. The testing is harder in terms of taxes because that's all you're being tested on where as with the CPA taxes only make up a small portion, and seeing you most people don't even know about an enrolled agent I assume you don't know what you speak up. In terms of taxes enrolled agents have the same power of CPA's

Enrolled agent could be one of the best careers in America and it still would not have shyt on a legit CPA. Youre talking about one of the most well respected professions in the world. I wish you well though.
 

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Enrolled agent could be one of the best careers in America and it still would not have shyt on a legit CPA. Youre talking about one of the most well respected professions in the world. I wish you well though.

You say "legit" CPA like you assume there are a bunch of CPA's that don't know what they're doing. You assumptions would be correct. EA's are specialized in tax code breh. CPA's can become specialized if that's all they did, but when you first study to become one and become one you are a jack of all accounting trades and a master of none. The CPA title holds weight but you can still earn a lot of money going my route.
 

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You say "legit" CPA like you assume there are a bunch of CPA's that don't know what they're doing. You assumptions would be correct. EA's are specialized in tax code breh. CPA's can become specialized if that's all they did, but when you first study to become one and become one you are a jack of all accounting trades and a master of none. The CPA title holds weight but you can still earn a lot of money going my route.

Youre just putting words in my mouth at this point man. My step mom is a CPA and I follow the professions, attorney, engineer, cpa, doctors, all of them. They try to make it as difficult as they can to become a public accountant for a reason. I wish you well, but we just do not agree about the value of the profession.
 

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Youre just putting words in my mouth at this point man. My step mom is a CPA and I follow the professions, attorney, engineer, cpa, doctors, all of them. They try to make it as difficult as they can to become a public accountant for a reason. I wish you well, but we just do not agree about the value of the profession.

i'm not devaluing the role of a CPA... but if you don't have the skill to back it up you will end up getting exposed. There's also alternatives that can be just as lucrative. If you're looking to start your own bookkeeping/tax practice, you don't need to be a CPA. There are other credentials you can get. You're looking at it from a trying to work in the corporate world perspective and if that's the goal the more education the better. I'm thinking from a more entrepreneurial perspective.


An EA is authorized by the U.S. Department of the Treasury to represent taxpayers before the IRS for audits, collections, and appeals, according to the National Association of Enrolled Agents (NAEA). EAs advise, represent and prepare tax returns for individuals, partnerships, corporations, estates, trusts and any entities with tax-reporting requirements.
EA’s only tend to focus on preparing taxes, and many specialize in tax resolution. In addition to an IRS-administered testing and application process, enrolled agents must complete at least 72 hours of continuing education every three years.
A CPA's bread and butter tends to be performing tax, accounting and financial services to businesses. Not all specialize in taxation, and some specialize in more than one service. Most states/jurisdictions require at least a bachelor's degree, two years public accounting experience and a passing score on the CPA exam to obtain a license. The IRS does not require attorneys and certified public accountants to complete continuing education, but some state licensing offices have added additional requirements. In Massachussetts, for example, CPAs need 80 hours of continuing education every two years.
Starting in 2013, the IRS will require tax preparers to pass a tax exam and obtain 15 hours of continuing education every year.

To sum it up simply, "Taxes are laws, and accounting is numbers," Pinck says. The price for preparing a return may even be comparable between a CPA and a EA.
So how do you choose which type of professional is right for you? It's not always black and white and requires an evaluation by each individual, but here are some general guidelines from the experts:
Choose an EA:
When you have out-of-state returns. Enrolled agents are the only taxpayer representatives who receive their unlimited right to practice from the federal government (CPAs and attorneys are licensed by the states). That means if you need to file in more than one state and eventually need representation before that state in an audit or resolution case, the same EA can do it, Pinck says.
When you need help resolving an IRS dispute or expect to owe. People who don't have the resources to pursue a taxation attorney often hire EAs instead for civil resolution cases, according to David Miles, an enrolled agent with 20/20 Tax Resolutionin Broomfield, Co. Not only do EAs rates tend to be more affordable, they can their tax law expertise to represent clients in tax proceedings, audit hearings and appeals.
Read: Why the IRS Picked You to Audit
EAs help ensure clients are treated appropriately by the IRS, work out payment plans on the best possible terms, and ensure the IRS follows laws that protect taxpayers, Miles says.
 
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What skills DO YOU HAVE OP?

I don't know what would be defined as skills. I got people skills, but I don't like customer service. I may just have to compromise with myself if I wanna get a job. I like working with my hands, even though it's not a skill.

Elaborate on said 'shyte jobs' endured ? Also OP are you quite computer savvy? good learning aptitude in general? capable of independent self study? If so then follow the consensus in here & get some accreditaitons under your belt to enhance that CV of yours. So what part of IT are you looking into if you go this way? Has anything caught your eye yet? I went through several different parts of administration before I found my niche. Hell, even sections of administration/engineering are wildly different. For me, networking couldn't be any less interesting. I know it because I have to, but I'm certainly never going to apply to be a full time Network engineer. But when I started getting into more of virtualization and its closely related brethren (server, storage, deployment, and to a lesser extent networking depending on environment), then I started to get a path of where I wanted to go! I recommend pursuing Cisco and CompTIA certs. Very practical knowledge and handy when you find the right employer. Back int he days, I went into Cisco classes not even knowing what a subnet was for. It is a whole lot more than I had imagined but very interesting and beneficial for troubleshooting network issues which there is always a demand for repairs of such. Shoot if you end up really good at terminating fiber those guys make $150/hr or so.

I have no idea what CV means and I don't know what the hell IT certs is. :dwillhuh:
 

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another option is working at comcast as a cable tech. think they start you around $15/hr, but you get a company car, working 4 days a week (10 hour shifts), and free cable/internet. my buddy works there as a tech manager, so he gets all that shyt plus more money, and doesn't have to install cable.
 

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I don't know what would be defined as skills. I got people skills, but I don't like customer service. I may just have to compromise with myself if I wanna get a job. I like working with my hands, even though it's not a skill.



I have no idea what CV means and I don't know what the hell IT certs is. :dwillhuh:

go get a degree.

wtf man.

what can YOU DO?

do you have something that ONLY YOU CAN DO?
 

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i'm not devaluing the role of a CPA... but if you don't have the skill to back it up you will end up getting exposed. There's also alternatives that can be just as lucrative. If you're looking to start your own bookkeeping/tax practice, you don't need to be a CPA. There are other credentials you can get. You're looking at it from a trying to work in the corporate world perspective and if that's the goal the more education the better. I'm thinking from a more entrepreneurial perspective.

:salute: as you should be bruh. It just seemed like you thought the accounting ms was generally not worth it and I was hoping you were not dismissing the degree. In terms of opportunity costs and looking to be a boss youre on the right track.

When you work for someone else youre making their dreams come true. Good luck man.
 

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I'm not useless. I always stand out from other employees when I worked.

I make beats, try to rap and right now I'm developing a TV show. Thing is I need something to do that pays me.


If you put those first two on a resume it will get thrown in the:trash:. If you want to use your hands get a CDL. Youre in LA, so there is probably a lot of competition for the jobs that do not require a technical degree. If you do not want to go to school, youre not in a good position. I would recommend you get your CDL, go to community college for something computer related, and go from there. Always view things from the perspective of what your role in a globalized, corporate world will be. Make sure your social media is professional. Good luck man.
 

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If you put those first two on a resume it will get thrown in the:trash:. If you want to use your hands get a CDL. Youre in LA, so there is probably a lot of competition for the jobs that do not require a technical degree. If you do not want to go to school, youre not in a good position. I would recommend you get your CDL, go to community college for something computer related, and go from there. Always view things from the perspective of what your role in a globalized, corporate world will be. Make sure your social media is professional. Good luck man.

Dude, I'm not putting those on resumes. :comeon:
 
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