Getting bold: Tarantino calls Roots "inauthentic"

[DaChampIsHere]

Suddenly you're an expert on film theory?
If you think slaves were walking around frowning all the time you're mistaken. Plenty of them were cool with their station in life. I know it's tough to stomach, but not every slave was a righteous freedom lover, plenty were virtuous slaves. The movie shows plenty of slaves not satisfied with their condition as well. The clip I posted was a bit of comic relief.
I'm not wondering about anything. Of course a lot of black people aren't going to want to see an accurate depiction of slavery. It's tough to stomach.

It doesn't take a film theorist to see that the point of a film is to tell a story and to get the viewer involved through emotional relationship. That's every filmmakers goal.

Everything else you're saying is whatever, feel how you feel, but again, you're posting nothing but conjecture. If even some the of slaves were happy about being mutilated and abused, then why did any of them ever leave the plantation? They could have very well stayed even after the Civil War, but we all know none od them did because no one liked that shyt. You make no sense.

I think most black people would love to see an accurate depiction of slavery (ie. see this thread) just to show the evil of yt. It's just that the movie you posted was stupid.

And why would I be mad? You're the one cheering on a dude who would have cheered for your direct family members to be hanged just so he could make a movie of it.

These Coli CACs are bold as fukk.
Slavery in and of itself is inhumane you stupid piece of shyt. shyt like just just makes me proud to hate white people. I love being a racist

Dudes be DEAD serious too.

 

[Will Ross]

so now we are going to shyt on roots because some cac said it was inauthentic. Roots gave a basic blue print of some of the things that went down. It made a lot of white people uneasy and gave a lot of younger black people in idea of how cacs did us. You have to ask yourself why did he bring up roots.

 

[Jerz-2]

Damn, am I the only one who thought he was speaking from a cinematic standpoint and not a “cultural experience”, race-based one?

Don’t get it fukked up, I’m the FIRST one to bash a bytch ass CAC for their CAC-related CACery. But I don’t think this weird-lookin’ ma’fukka is trying to quantify the slavery experience as much as he’s expressing a disdain for how it was presented to him, as a viewer (and a viewer who happens to be a director):

"When you look at Roots, nothing about it rings true in the storytelling, and none of the performances ring true for me either,” said Tarantino.

Talmbout the storytelling and the characters and how they affected his view of the movie, I think, is a far cry from saying “Roots” devalued and/or misrepresented the slavery experience….besides, this nikka is MAD frail, he would like to not wanna be too disrespectful.

You know what it’s like? It's the same as nikkas on The Coli who diss classic albums, saying the music sounds "dated" or calling established legends “wack”, because they weren't there during that era when the music was actually considered groundbreaking....for crying out loud, he said so HIMSELF (sounding JUST LIKE the nikkas on here):

“I didn’t see it when it first came on, but….”

….he's improperly trying to judge it from his own lens, as a filmmaker in 2013….the same way nikkas on here improperly try to judge a 1986 rapper by a 2013 standard.

Something else he should consider, too: he don't know WHAT restrictions or complications Alex Haley ran into trying to get his vision on the screen, what CACery Haley had to endure or what script changes they made him make....so when he says this:

I couldn’t get over how oversimplified they made everything about that time.

…I'm gonna assume the "they" he means is the studio execs. Because as a filmmaker, he should already KNOW how difficult it is to get your original vision to the screen (ask Barry Michael Cooper, you ever read the original treatment for “New Jack City”?) He don’t know what Haley went through and how he possibly could have been forced to “water down” some scenes or whatever. We’re talmbout the fukkin’ 1970s here, there was only so much nikkas could get away with on TV back then.

 

[jwinfield]

so now we are going to shyt on roots because some cac said it was inauthentic. Roots gave a basic blue print of some of the things that went down. It made a lot of white people uneasy and gave a lot of younger black people in idea of how cacs did us. You have to ask yourself why did he bring up roots.

Because in the interview they were talking about other movies dealing with slavery, Glory being another one. Hudlin, one of the producers says that the slaves should've been the focal point of the movie, not Matthew Broderick's character.

Rest of the quote about Roots.

The faults of Glory aside, not much compares to the anger both men harbor toward the landmark television miniseries Roots. Written by Alex Haley and hailed in 1977 for telling the “complete” story of slavery, Roots remains the third most-watched miniseries of all time. It is also still considered the definitive mainstream portrait of slavery in the U.S.

“When you look at Roots, nothing about it rings true in the storytelling, and none of the performances ring true for me either,” says Tarantino. “I didn’t see it when it first came on, but when I did I couldn’t get over how oversimplified they made everything about that time. It didn’t move me because it claimed to be something it wasn’t.”

One thing both men agreed on was a scene in Roots that served as an example of what not to do in Django Unchained. The last act of the final episode features the character Chicken George being given the opportunity to beat his slave master and owner in much the same way he’d been punished and tormented. In the end the character chooses not to so he can be “the bigger man.”

“Bulls--t,” exclaim both Tarantino and Hudlin in unison as they discuss the absurdity of the scene. “No way he becomes the bigger man at that moment,” says Tarantino. “The powers that be during the ’70s didn’t want to send the message of revenge to African-Americans. They didn’t want to give black people any ideas. But anyone knows that would never happen in that situation. And in Django *Unchained we make that clear.”

And like other people have said already, Roots was plagiarized from a novel by a white author and people have called bullshyt on Haley being able to trace his ancestry to a specific village and person in Africa.

And remember, Roots came on ABC primetime, they weren't gonna let them go all out with a true depiction of slavery.

http://www.museum.tv/eotvsection.php?entrycode=roots

Apprehensions that Roots would flop shaped the way that ABC presented the show. Familiar television actors like Lorne Greene were chosen for the white, secondary roles, to reassure audiences. The white actors were featured disproportionately in network previews. For the first episode, the writers created a conscience-stricken slave captain (Ed Asner), a figure who did not appear in Haley's novel but was intended to make white audiences feel better about their historical role in the slave trade.

Talmbout the storytelling and the characters and how they affected his view of the movie, I think, is a far cry from saying “Roots” devalued and/or misrepresented the slavery experience….besides, this nikka is MAD frail, he would like to not wanna be too disrespectful.

Exactly.

OJ as a West African native?

:kobe:

 

[The Nigerian]

It doesn't take a film theorist to see that the point of a film is to tell a story and to get the viewer involved through emotional relationship. That's every filmmakers goal.

Yeah, the point of Goodbye Uncle Tom was to show the horrors of the slave trade. Whatever emotional response you get is on you. Me, I find slavery repulsive. It's hard to watch a lot of the scenes. That was the point.

Everything else you're saying is whatever, feel how you feel, but again, you're posting nothing but conjecture. If even some the of slaves were happy about being mutilated and abused, then why did any of them ever leave the plantation? They could have very well stayed even after the Civil War, but we all know none od them did because no one liked that shyt. You make no sense.

In the movie they explain that they viewed runaway slaves as mentally disturbed and afflicted with Drapetomania. They even show a medical professional explaining the condition and the ways that they dealt with it. It's pretty ghastly. You should... I dunno... actually watch the film and learn something instead of being such an emotional b!tch about it. And a lot of slaves did stay... most of them, actually. They became "share croppers" and "domestic workers."

I think most black people would love to see an accurate depiction of slavery (ie. see this thread) just to show the evil of yt. It's just that the movie you posted was stupid.

Sorry, but it seems like you can't handle the truth. Slavery was horrible. Blacks in America were literally owned. There's no nice way to tell the story. You'll always be dissatisfied because you probably have some deep seeded insecurity about the whole thing. Totally understandable. It's okay for a man to be an emo b!tch in 2012.

 

[Will Ross]

Because in the interview they were talking about other movies dealing with slavery, Glory being another one. Hudlin, one of the producers says that the slaves should've been the focal point of the movie, not Matthew Broderick's character.

Rest of the quote about Roots.






And like other people have said already, Roots was plagiarized from a novel by a white author and people have called bullshyt on Haley being able to trace his ancestry to a specific village and person in Africa.

And remember, Roots came on ABC primetime, they weren't gonna let them go all out with a true depiction of slavery.

ROOTS - The Museum of Broadcast Communications





Exactly.

OJ as a West African native?

:kobe:

LOl nikkas shooting on roots to defend a cac

 

[ExodusNirvana]

Overall, most slaves were probably treated humanely. It just makes sense to do as such.

However, I am certain that slave offspring, workers who no longer could carry their weight, women who could no longer bear kids, etc, etc, etc, were made examples out of and used for entertainment in the most inhumane way possible

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

These Coli CACs are bold as fukk.
Slavery in and of itself is inhumane you stupid piece of shyt. shyt like this just makes me proud to hate white people. I love being a racist

No I am quite the nikka you don't wanna see, and you are quite the fool that will lead you and yours down a path of ignorance.


God won't let me be a white apologist and where in my post did I say that slavery was a humane institution....

I said that more than likely slaves were treated humanely...

I know reading comprehension is hard for new nikkas but I don't blame you, I blame Bush and the No Child Left Behind Act that has failed you...

That's the type of nikka I am

I was raised to lean towards wisdom and my own common sense and my wits tell me that if I spent what is now probably the equivalent on 35k on an investment that would yield yield me 100 times that over its 25 tenure then guess what? I am going to do everything in my power to make sure that return on my investment comes into fruition...

For the most part, slavery was instituted to get an unprecedented economic advantage over the rest of the world and how would that come into fruition if the investor was to misuse/abuse said investment....????

Chattel slavery contained the purest of demonic energy that mankind has seen, however, it would be foolish to think that the Euro slavemasters main objective was just to subjugate black nikkas and not become a financial juggernaut via forced free labor..

 

[mson]

No I am quite the nikka you don't wanna see, and you are quite the fool that will lead you and yours down a path of ignorance.


God won't let me be a white apologist and where in my post did I say that slavery was a humane institution....

I said that more than likely slaves were treated humanely...

I know reading comprehension is hard for new nikkas but I don't blame you, I blame Bush and the No Child Left Behind Act that has failed you...

That's the type of nikka I am

I was raised to lean towards wisdom and my own common sense and my wits tell me that if I spent what is now probably the equivalent on 35k on an investment that would yield yield me 100 times that over its 25 tenure then guess what? I am going to do everything in my power to make sure that return on my investment comes into fruition...

For the most part, slavery was instituted to get an unprecedented economic advantage over the rest of the world and how would that come into fruition if the investor was to misuse/abuse said investment....????

Chattel slavery contained the purest of demonic energy that mankind has seen, however, it would be foolish to think that the Euro slavemasters main objective was just to subjugate black nikkas and not become a financial juggernaut via forced free labor..

Humanely by what standards? Not being worked to death? You keep telling yourself that investment shyt.

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

I understand where you coming from bruh... Trust me..

I am not trying to make slavery out to be less than what it was...

Maybe humanely is the wrong choice of words, however, if you've ever been locked up in an over crowded county jail, or a poorly run penitentiary, you would probably agree with me that its not an environment conducive for positive human development, however, you get 3 meals and a cot and have the opportunity to work on your health.......

Black people must view this with a keen eye....A lot of Europeans have condemned their souls to damnation for these acts and we as black people must know exactly what crimes against humanity were committed against us and for what reasons...

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

Humanely by what standards? Not being worked to death? You keep telling yourself that investment shyt.

My Grandma is 97 years old. My Great Grandma grew up as a slave...

My Grandmother has writings that go back as far as 1901 that contains the trials and thoughts of my Great Grandmother...

We are fed a media depiction that for self serving reasons will not accurately capture the true brutality and purpose of chattel slavery...

But you just keep on believing that white folks did it solely because they hate nikkas so much....

 

[Heretic]

I will say that roots isn't the most accurate depiction of slavery, bit then again it was a tv miniseries and also it was forced to pull punches by default. No network is gonna allow an all out accurate telling of the slave trade. 1. Advertising dollars and 2. The majority of tv viewers are white. In the 70s that wasnt gonna happen just look at how all black movies, blaxploitation primarily, were independent movies. Im sure the roots series that was made is not the one that could have been made.

 

[Mask and Da Glock]

but romanticized westerns are a very authentic depiction of slavery

 

[Danie84]

QT don't get a pass for that one

 

[The Nigerian]

but romanticized westerns are a very authentic depiction of slavery

In this case, yes.