Ghost writing/Ghost Producing is a part of Rap. Get over it. *Update: GZA wrote for ODB

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I could care less about Drake. It is about ghost writing and producing being apart of Rap.

We know ghost writing exists. We are not dumb. But all the people you mentioned were all whack mcs for the most part. Or producers who wanted to get in front of the mic or women. The other examples were collaborative where someone gets a few lines. You essentially are bunching drake with these guys. So what's your argument?
 

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I heard somewhere Pharoah Monch wrote for Puffy too:manny:

Gillie wrote for and coached Lil Wayne

Pun wrote mostly everything for the Terror Sqad

All these examples are of a better artist writing for a worse artist. All the examples dude posted were similar. All examples of ghost writing in the industry are better writers writing for worse writers. So drake is the rap god but he has artist writing for him?

If we follow the logic in OPs posts quentin is the better writer. I am not against Drake being written for. It makes financial sense to pump material through him. I like his songs. But I won't respect his creativity anymore because I don't think it's his creativity. In the meantime I have a lot of respect for ghostwriters behind the scene because I respect creativity and those are who id study. Weeknd who's was responsible for the sound of the previous album. .quentin. .nicolaus F. Devontee woe. Shi. Ovohush.. All in drakes case.

Rico love. Ty dollar. Big Sean. Keri hilson. Kid cudi. Tory lanez and many others less mainstream
 

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I could care less about Drake. It is about ghost writing and producing being apart of Rap.

Being in the studio with your homies and having them toss you a bar is not the same as having an artist produce a track for you to directly copy from. Drake is a fraud rapper, plain and simple. Yes, he got Meek, but he a fake, a p*ssy, a phoney, a stan, his mans wrote weak rhymes for him and make him take the blame, got pissed on, got slapped up by another fraud Puff Daddy , I could go and on :scusthov: Your boss is a bish and would trade his soul to be Wayne
 

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See this is the Bullshyt I'm talking about, discreditin The GOATS:scusthov:

...to give a 6 Fraud a pass cuz his Reference Tracks are exposed:what:

Big, Pac, Pun, Lord Infamous and em:rip: must all be rollin in their graves:sadcam:
 
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I heard somewhere Pharoah Monch wrote for Puffy too:manny:

Gillie wrote for and coached Lil Wayne

Pun wrote mostly everything for the Terror Sqad

Pharoah Monch wrote this song for Puffy's Press Play Album in 06

 

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:mjlol: At the reaction from these degenerate basement dwellers

Thread had nothing to do with Drake they copping feels and having emotional outburst when he was stating facts:mjlol:

It's going to be ok your idol can still be your hero no matter what
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Reference tracks=writing for someone else.

Just like audio instructions =written instructions


And no, it's not even the same ball park. With ghost written lyrics you at least have the option of adding your own rhythm to it. A reference track is just straight up karaoke
 

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Very different.

Nas created it, Large would help clean it up a little bit.

Quentin created it, Drake cleaned it up a little bit.
Basically the people that's truly upset act as if Drake was spitting CB4 Rick Ross:duck: about being a super gangster coke dealing kingpin. :pachaha:
 
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