Ghostwriting Isn't The Real Scandal, Sound Effects Are

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:what: So ur actually tryna convince people that vocal effects and mixed and mastered vocals is worse than having a ghostwriter? Do yall nikkas be bored? Or high before yall make these threads. Imma say a combination of both.
Both are fraudulent
 

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Breh, this is real simple. Brittany Spears cannot sing worth shyt and she's a mega star. Christina Aguilara can sing. Both use effects but an engineer has to spend way more time to make Brittany sound decent. Who do you respect more if the finished product is good on both.

Uber editing and effects is fraudulent. Ghostwriting is fraudulent. Get it?
nikka I mix music I know exactly what u talkin bout. Problem is u talkin bout hip hop and not pop or RnB. nikkas main goal in the studio when spittin ain't to have a great singing voice. So it's not fraudulent to have effects on the vocals to cut thru the track.
 

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nikka I mix music I know exactly what u talkin bout. Problem is u talkin bout hip hop and not pop or RnB. nikkas main goal in the studio when spittin ain't to have a great singing voice. So it's not fraudulent to have effects on the vocals to cut thru the track.
These nikkaz sing their raps though homie. When they harmonize and use melodies
 

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nikka I mix music I know exactly what u talkin bout. Problem is u talkin bout hip hop and not pop or RnB. nikkas main goal in the studio when spittin ain't to have a great singing voice. So it's not fraudulent to have effects on the vocals to cut thru the track.
What do you mean "cut through"?
 

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These nikkaz sing their raps though homie. When they harmonize and use melodies
But that's fine. Cause they aren't claiming to be great singers. And aren't particularly in a genre of music that requires singing. The whole point of professional mixing and mastering is to take the rawness out of a record. U can't achieve that without certain effects and layering vocals.
 

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What do you mean "cut through"?
So the beat doesn't drown out the vocals. The vocals lay in the beat and are not overpowered by the beat. Literally cutting thru the beat. Doing adlibs. Doubles. In and outs. Adding delay. Reverb. Noise Gate. Etc Etc help round out the track and make the vocals and overall song sound "fuller". U take all of that out u don't have a professional sounding recording.
 

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But that's fine. Cause they aren't claiming to be great singers. And aren't particularly in a genre of music that requires singing. The whole point of professional mixing and mastering is to take the rawness out of a record. U can't achieve that without certain effects and layering vocals.
It's fine for who? The general public doesn't know how shytty they really sound. It's actually shocking.
 

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It's fine for who? The general public doesn't know how shytty they really sound. It's actually shocking.
Dude they sound shytty with all the effects as well. I don't think anyone is expecting great voices out of these dudes. Atleast I hope not. The vocal effects they use is more for style reasons than anything. They not tryna fool nobody. Sounds to me like u had a first time experience in the studio recently or some shyt. Lol
 

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If this thread was about singers than it would make more sense ... I guess
 

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the first person I noticed was Ludacris on Redlight District, that nikkas voice ALWAYS sounds powerful, even when hes doing a feature he drowns every one else out, he compresses the shyt out his voice. Sounds good tho. :ehh:

Young Thug Im still trying to figure out how he bends his voice like that, I dont think its auto-tune because it bends incorrectly not correctly, could be melodyne.

this young boul Lil Boo uses the old trick where he doubles the track, splits the signal (L+R), and there might be a dash of reverb. sounds solid tho more heads should do it.

(yo im nerding out on production engineering right now my bad lol)
 
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