Giannis did what Bron was S'posed to do

[ISO]

LeBron’s first Cleveland tenure he didn’t have guys like Middleton and Jrue.

The Bucks FO did a much better job at surrounding Giannis with talent. The Cavs would have never took the risk of the Jrue trade.

LeBron’s Cleveland term was also in the middle of multiple veteran dynasties (Lakers, Celtics, Pistons, Spurs).

LeBron could have maybe eventually won a championship in Cleveland in a 20 year career there. However, a guy needs multiple championships to reach the pantheon of greats. His choice to leave was the right choice and was great for the sport.

Giannis isn’t better at basketball than LeBron no matter how you slice it. Giannis is close and has similarities to Bron and is better at certain things but LeBron is overall the more well rounded player.

 

[Dr. Narcisse]

But LeBron still had superstar help to win that one with Kyrie, cause Kyrie was balling the fukk out in that finals breh, that mfer couldn't miss. I remember me and my family/friends were watching and we kept talking about Kyrie ass and that Bron wasn't doing shyt. We felt that Kyrie got robbed FMVP. Not to mention, Bron also brought Kevin Love when he was a star player aka Mr. Double Double on that T-Wolves team at that time.

As great as Kyrie was...

Middleton put up 24/6/4 with great defense this series. He was no slouch.

Does that make him a superstar? No. But like Kyrie he had a helluva series as well

 

[DrexlersFade]

Giannis beat pheonix. They fukkin suck

Bron beat Miami they were even worse

 

[Dr. Narcisse]

He would've got multiple rings. As I said, the East would've been his from 2012 to 2019.

He's supposed to be the GOAT, right?

The fact you don't have alot of faith that he could've got multiple rings in that time frame says ALOT.

He took the easy way out.

Having 3 rings in Cleveland (+4 mvps & 3 finals mvps) would've made his resume way more ironclad than it is right now.

Jordan is the GOAT. He also needed Scottie Pippen, GOAT HC, one of the GOAT Gms to get his 6 rings as well.

Lets keep some context. Cleveland's organization was not the Bulls.

The Heat was the easy way. Although as I said who would have predicted Wade would have health issues. The less controversial way would have been if chose the Bulls and somehow won his 2 or 3 rings.

 

[KingBeez]

Giannis could retire today and be an unanimous HoF at 26, his legacy cemented.

• NBA champion (2021)
• NBA Finals MVP (2021)
• 2× NBA Most Valuable Player (2019, 2020)
• 5× NBA All-Star (2017–2021)
• NBA All-Star Game MVP (2021)
• 3× All-NBA First Team (2019–2021)
• 2× All-NBA Second Team (2017, 2018)
• NBA Defensive Player of the Year (2020)
• 3× NBA All-Defensive First Team (2019–2021)
• NBA All-Defensive Second Team (2017)
• NBA Most Improved Player (2017)
• NBA All-Rookie Second Team (2014)
• Euroscar Player of the Year (2018)
• 
  TWENTY SIX!!!! NBA prime years are 26-31, this just the beginning

 

[Don Homer]

Giannis could retire today and be an unanimous HoF at 26, his legacy cemented.

• NBA champion (2021)
• NBA Finals MVP (2021)
• 2× NBA Most Valuable Player (2019, 2020)
• 5× NBA All-Star (2017–2021)
• NBA All-Star Game MVP (2021)
• 3× All-NBA First Team (2019–2021)
• 2× All-NBA Second Team (2017, 2018)
• NBA Defensive Player of the Year (2020)
• 3× NBA All-Defensive First Team (2019–2021)
• NBA All-Defensive Second Team (2017)
• NBA Most Improved Player (2017)
• NBA All-Rookie Second Team (2014)
• Euroscar Player of the Year (2018)

damn:

maybe nikkas need to be more unskilled

 

[Michael's Black Son]

Stand on business no running to play with Superstars and he closed out with a 50 burger his legacy is cemented

your right



Space Jam in theaters now

 

[HabitualChiller]

Right, if he wins another title and MVP before 30 then he is in the Lebron discussion.


He would have 3 MVP's and 2 Titles.

Yes, if you mean trajectory. As for all-time, then no. Bron is unanimous top five, and they're all getting nitpicked in order to find the correct order for them.

 

[KingBeez]

damn:

maybe nikkas need to be more unskilled

Not bad for an all rookie second team player lol

 

[Don Homer]

Not bad for an all rookie second team player lol

that man was on a 15-win team as a rookie

unbelievable

 

[Professor Emeritus]

The critiism shouldnt be directed at leaving Cleveland. That turned out the best for Cleveland and Bron. The only thing to criticize is him taking the "easiest" path in Miami. The fact that it wasnt as easy cause of Bron/Wade's overlapping skillset is why he had to truly earn those rings.

At the time of The Decision I thought Chicago was by far the easiest path.

Rose / Watson
Deng / Korver / Bogans
LeBron / Brewer
Taj / Johnson
Noah / Thomas

Probably would play Taj limited minutes and do a lot of Bron at the 4 with some combo of Rose/Deng/Korver/Bogans/Brewer on the perimeter. On offense the 2011 Bulls's problem was having only one elite shot creator (problem solved with Rose-Bron taking turns and Deng a nice 3rd option) and not enough shooters on the court (problem solved as Bron had far more range than Boozer and his presence allows Rose and Deng to play fewer minutes thus opening up the court for an all-shooters 2nd unit of Watson-Bogans-Korver-Bron-Thomas).

That team is so fukking deep and the roles fit together much better than the Heat. The defense would have been otherworldly (Bulls were already #1 in defense and then you're replacing Boozer with LeBron) and the offense would be ultra-elite too. With Bron there perhaps Rose and Deng don't have to take on the burden they did and stay away from injury. It's possible that Bron didn't trust Thibs (and maybe he shouldn't), but I think it was more his friendship with Wade that made him choose that path instead.

 

[old pig]

Thread is gross

nikka said gross lmaooo

ya these posts/threads are getting nasty/disrespectful lol

 

[Dr. Narcisse]

At the time of The Decision I thought Chicago was by far the easiest path.

Rose / Watson
Deng / Korver / Bogans
LeBron / Brewer
Taj / Johnson
Noah / Thomas

Probably would play Taj limited minutes and do a lot of Bron at the 4 with some combo of Rose/Deng/Korver/Bogans/Brewer on the perimeter. On offense the 2011 Bulls's problem was having only one elite shot creator (problem solved with Rose-Bron taking turns and Deng a nice 3rd option) and not enough shooters on the court (problem solved as Bron had far more range than Boozer and his presence allows Rose and Deng to play fewer minutes thus opening up the court for an all-shooters 2nd unit of Watson-Bogans-Korver-Bron-Thomas).

That team is so fukking deep and the roles fit together much better than the Heat. The defense would have been otherworldly (Bulls were already #1 in defense and then you're replacing Boozer with LeBron) and the offense would be ultra-elite too. With Bron there perhaps Rose and Deng don't have to take on the burden they did and stay away from injury. It's possible that Bron didn't trust Thibs (and maybe he shouldn't), but I think it was more his friendship with Wade that made him choose that path instead.

Could be wrong, but they had the capspace to still sign Boozer as well (if LeBron signed)

 

[KingBeez]

that man was on a 15-win team as a rookie

unbelievable

That’s the thing I love the most about this win, him and Middleton were in the same draft! This teams main stars were homegrown talent, with the rest of the squad (besides Jrue) being guys who were afterthoughts on their previous team (Portis, lopez, connaughton)

 

[Sterling Archer]

He won that series dumbass, which is kinda at odds with the premise of the thread.

And beat the 2017, 2018, and 2021 MVPs on the way there....while Giannis couldn't get past those same Heat.

And Giannis won all his series this year.
Dude said Gianni’s got a break playing hurt teams in the playoffs. I said Lakers played a hurt team in the Finals. All that is facts for both sides. You nikkas so emotional you don’t even know what you arguing right now when there’s argument to be had. Just various observations. At least regarding me. Quote other folks saying other shyt to argue.