Gillum's nomination shyts all over the Clinton legacy

[MasterOfAllHeSurveyz]

If we think about it Clinton wouldn’t have won if Ross Perot wasn’t getting so much of the Republican vote

That's a myth. Perot actually hurt Clinton more than Bush.

 

[jj23]

Yeah short term, but in the long term it decimated the democratic party.. That was my point. It's good for the Democrats at teh very top of the heap, but everybody else suffers including the base. Eventually, you end up with candidates who can't even beat Donald Trump because the party organization is top-down.

Let's stop the short and long term talk. If this model becomes consistently sucessfull that's awesome, but sociological, demographical and economic changes should make us sober enough to appreciate that nothing will last forever. These things eventually fall out of favour and fail. The secret is being agile enough to forecast the change and adapt to it.

 

[brick james]

How long until the Russians convince progressives that andrew gillum is bought and paid for by evil billionaires tom steyer and george soros? I'm going to give it a few weeks

 

[ColdSlither]

Al From founded the DLC and also the Reagan administration started the right’s domination. Some of the stuff Reagan did had already been started by Carter, but he took it a step further and his rhetoric gave conservatism a new life.

Obama was the most left wing Democratic president we had since LBJ, which is pretty sad if you think about it. Carter started mass deregulation of the economy and increased military spending. And I don’t think we need to talk about Clinton.

American politics leaned more to the left after FDR. I think the Civil Rights Movement, what people felt was the failure of Keynesian economics due to stagflation and high unemployment, and Jimmy Carter’s perceived weakness allowed someone like Reagan to be elected and shift America to the right.

That's the thing with Democrats. They can get away with doing the things that Republicans will get roasted for.

 

[Geek Nasty]

Let's stop the short and long term talk. If this model becomes consistently sucessfull that's awesome, but sociological, demographical and economic changes should make us sober enough to appreciate that nothing will last forever. These things eventually fall out of favour and fail. The secret is being agile enough to forecast the change and adapt to it.

What did Clinton or Democrats gain from it? It made control more centralized because the bribes...i mean contributions go to the top. But, Clinton barely won reelection and 2 absolute clowns have been elected from the Republican side in the meantime. The candidates coming from outside the party are the ones who overperform. Bernie Sanders pushed Hillary all the way to the nomination and he calls himself a Socialist and isn't even a Democrat. The centralized mindset gets them the official nod, but not the support from the general membership. So, really all they got was more control over the *party*.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Hacked emails: Gillum was Clinton VP contender

:queenhillary:

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

When Clinton won, hadn’t the Democrats lost 5 of the last 6 presidential elections? It’s fine to hate Clinton, but lets not forget that we’d had 12 years straight of Republican presidents while running left wing dudes like Walter Mondale and Michael Dukakis.

BINGO

OP is an idiot who thinks history started in 2016.

 

[Secure Da Bag]

Hacked emails: Gillum was Clinton VP contender

:queenhillary:

And she picked Tim Kaine instead?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

And picked Tim Kaine instead?

My bad, I guess we should have gone with SARAH PALIN

 

[Secure Da Bag]

My bad, I guess we should have gone with SARAH PALIN

That's the best retort you can come up with? A completely irrelevant strawman?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

That's the best retort you can come up with? A completely irrelevant strawman?

Theres nothing wrong with Tim Kaine. He's a great senator with a strong track record and supports black issues.

 

[Secure Da Bag]

Theres nothing wrong with Tim Kaine. He's a great senator with a strong track record and supports black issues.

Great senator and great choice for VP are not the same thing. Especially when the base you need the most is not feeling you or your platform. Why in 2015 did she think a white man as the representative to black people was a good idea? Especially after we had Obama?

The fact that there are people in the Democrat party spouting this flawed thinking is why it's so difficult for Democrats to win and also why Progressives are getting more and more of the base.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Great senator and great choice for VP are not the same thing. Especially when the base you need the most is not feeling you or your platform. Why in 2015 did she think a white man as the representative to black people was a good idea? Especially after we had Obama?

The fact that there are people in the Democrat party spouting this flawed thinking is why it's so difficult for Democrats to win and also why Progressives are getting more and more of the base.

I didn't say he was chosen to represent black issues.

What the fukk are you smoking?

 

[Secure Da Bag]

I didn't say he was chosen to represent black issues.

Theres nothing wrong with Tim Kaine. He's a great senator with a strong track record and supports black issues.

Hey look guys. I have the opportunity to pick an actual black person as VP who would definitely champion black issues. But instead I've decided to pick an old white man to do that. There's nothing wrong with that.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Hey look guys. I have the opportunity to pick an actual black person as VP who would definitely champion black issues. But instead I've decided to pick an old white man to do that. There's nothing wrong with that.

Yeah, all candidates have to be black. All of them.

fukking idiot