I don't know who's statement you're addressing but you side stepped my point and came with a complete random strawman argument. I never said or even implied that homosexual black men weren't black men too. Nor did I say you didn't see lesbian black women as black women too. In fact my statement didn't even address your or my personal opinions, but the actions or lack thereof of the black female collective. Or at least those that are most prominent and vocal.
Please address why black women as a whole will endorse and celebrate heterosexual black female IR couples despite them already be over represented as it is, but then will not even give lip service to black female lgbt under representation representation. If they advocate so ardently for lgbt representation and intersectionality, then why are they pushing for black male lgbt which is already over represented compared to their pop size, and for heterosexual interracial black women, which is not only over represented, but reinforces white male patriarchal hegemony. And since you all do that then, I'm sorry, but you're in no position to lecture us about representation, "intersectionality"(which in of itself is shown to be a flawed theory, at least in the way ya'll present it), bigotry, and oppression. Because you all tend to pick and chose which types of black representation you present(those black women in the media) and endorse(average black women).
Don't give me your personal views on the subject or try to extrapolate mine. Address the inconsistent and hypocriticals actions and lack thereof of black women collectively I outlined above.
Most of you don’t like being represented by gay black men, but I said most of us see black men as black men and some are being correctly represented because gay black men exist. Like another poster said, we stood behind and endorsed Laverne Cox for a while, we don’t have as many issues being represented by black LGBT people, and that doesn’t threaten our status of desirability or femininity in the scope of the white male patriarchal hegemonic society or whatever you previously tried to imply. They advocate for black LGBT people, man or women. Intersectionality is completely unrelated with black women being in interracial pairings. I already stated multiple times that some believe there aren’t enough roles for gay black females, so black lesbians are definitely fighting to be represented, too. And once again, the only black women actually behind the media I can think of, Shonda and Amma, both push IR, but for both black men and women, so the assessment that they push for only BWWM pairings is inaccurate.
What are you defending black lgbt males from? Criticism by black men of the way and frequency in which they're presented in the media? Sorry, but the last time I checked we black men are allowed to critique and criticize how we are presented in the media just like you all do with light skin over representation. It doesn't mean we harbor bigotry or homophobia towards lgbt individuals. And it's not just the over representation of homosexuality we have a problem with, it's the overall lopsided marginalization of black men, particularly in a sexual/romantic context being represented as disproportionately asexual, homosexual, or toxic-sexual(rapist, abusers, harassers, etc.).
But, hey maybe I should play your game and extrapolate from you criticism of the over representation of light skinned black women, that you're insecure, bigoted, and racist against light skinned or mixed women. And it's our job as black men to defend light skin women from you angry jealous dark skin women always attacking them? I mean, you don't see us black men complaining about light skinned or mixed-race men do you, so why are you so adverse to light skinned women being represented(and you better not say because they're over represented)? Sounds like you have personal issues to deal with....................Now, see what I just did there? Doesn't feel so good for people to assume the worst about or misrepresent your well meaning & perfectly legit criticism, does it?
The criticism comes from the blatant homophobia that results from the so-called overrepresentation. Please don’t be dishonest because that’s the main reason why they write these characters, to show what they have to go through in the black community, moonlight is a perfect example. I was stating that these black women defend them more than push for them. By your logic, does that mean that black women are pushing for black men to be asexual and toxic-sexual, as well? I was sure that white males were behind that. First, I’ll say what I want. And to clarify, I have no issues being represented by a light-skinned women because light-skinned black women exist and deserve to be represented, I don’t like being represented by a biracial woman that has a non-black parent, nice try though. Black men are represented by actors from Larenz Tate to Chadwick Boseman, so I don’t expect them to complain. They’re being represented by actual black men. If every black man on screen started looking like Jesse Williams like they do for black women, then I’d understand. That being said, it’s your prerogative to defend them from all the evil, bitter, insecure, hateful, bigoted, racist -did I miss anything?- dark-skinned black women that always attack them like me 
And if you're acknowledging that black female lgbt is under represented then, why is it that we don't see black women applying to same amount of vigor and energy that you from them when 'defending' black male lgbt representation(which is over represented) or the same about of enthusiasm & excitement from them when a heterosexual interracial black woman is presented in the media(which is also over represented)?
I already said that black women are pushing for more LGBT roles, especially the ones that promote intersectionality. See above about Shonda and Amma. The same people watching Scandal most likely watch Empire, Power, and Grey’s Anatomy. You’re ignoring what I’m saying so you can keep presenting the same argument.
With all due respect, I'm not interested whether or not you believe they WOULD be okay with black female lgbt roles. I'm interested in why they don't apply the energy that they have for the over represented black male lgbt and heterosexual interracial black female roles. Why aren't black females writers, producers, and directors like Issa rae creating shows/movies starring lgbt black females? Why aren't black actresses like Nia Long specifically requesting for a lesbian role? Again, with all due respect, their inaction on the issue of under representation of black female lgbt speaks a lot louder than your second hand attempts to speak on their behalf.
See above.
Furthermore, I never once claimed that we should have more hetero IRBM roles or that I want to see more. I posed it as a question to another person and I spoke out about the unfair treatment hetero IRBM roles get being underrepresented and misrepresented as degenerate the few times they are shown in comparison to hetero IRBW roles.
ANYONE, including you, who's truly advocates for black representation(as you claimed to) and is against white male patriarchal hegemony(which you also claim), in the interest of fairness, would have a problem with that. To not would be hypocritical, because hetero IRBM are black people too just like lgbt black men.
I never said I had a problem with it, I said it sounded like you’re being a hypocrite. Now I understand what you were saying, my mistake.
So, do you see a problem with it or are you okay with black men being maligned & marginalized like this in the mass media? Or is that you only concerned with maintaining as much LGBT black male representation as possible, but could careless about the representation of other %98 of us(and one could even question if that's genuine).
No I understand what you’re saying, I just don’t see why we should be protesting their roles. Their roles are made regardless of if black women approve and if straight black men and straight black men involved with non-black women is what you want to see, let them know and push for it.
Wow, what a lazy and inaccurate strawman you've presented, couple with a mindless ad hominem attack. Shame, I expected better.
But, again I never once stated I wanted to see more hetero IRBM pairing just for the sake of seeing it. My issue is how unfairly they are treated being under represented & misrepresented as degenerate which represents a large attack on the image of black men as a whole. So, if you and other black women see it fit to speak out on behalf of lgbt black males, when they're already over represented in the media, then why can't you empathize with the plight of IRBM representation, which is maligned and marginalizied by the media, unlike lgbt black men. Hetero IRBM are black men and black people too? So, where's your solidarity and compassion for their plight?
Once again, I don’t see why their roles should be taken away, I don’t push for gay black men to be on screen, they already are. And I don’t have compassion for your plight as you showed that you don’t have any for ours. Push for your own damn roles, you can do it without our help.
Actually if you attempt to force us to accept any and every lgbt black male representation, and shut down any critique or criticism of it like we do with EVERY OTHER portrayal of black men, then yes, you are attempt to shove it down our throats.
How would you like it if we jumped down your throats every time you guys criticized the over representation of light skinned or mixed black women and tried to stop you from voicing your concerns about it. After all, light skinned and mixed black women shouldn't be excluded just because you brown and dark skinned women are insecure and uncomfortable with them getting their shine in media.
You do, that’s nothing new. Every single thread and you just did it above with their exact same viewpoints and stereotypes about black women. Did you not just dap a post that said black women are unhappy with our position in society because we’re insecure? In fact, black men love to say it’s an insecure black female thing and it’s not important compared to the “real issues” that we have to address in the black community , but now that you’ve brought up their representation, it’s not such a female thing anymore, hmm? The last thing black women should be fighting for is interest within the likes of you and black men like you.
No, they don't. Because if they did they wouldn't ignore the plight of marginalized and maligned hetero IRBM and lgbt BW. They are black people too, so why shouldn't their experiences be shown through difference lenses.
Sorry, but, I'm calling bs on that one.
I definitely agree that I barely see any black lesbians roles, but we aren’t the ones running the media. They don’t hear us like they don’t hear you. How many times does it need to be said? And I don’t think they’re going to fight for proper representation for people that claim they’re insecure like you. Fight your own battles.
And again, I'm not advocating for hetero IRBM just for sake of having more hetero IRBM, like black women do with the over represented hetero IRBW in media. I'm speaking out against the marginalization & maligning of an underrepresented & misrepresented group by the media, which is hetero IRBM. And you and other black women would be too if you really cared about supporting black people being fairly represented in the media. If you don't then it shows you really don't practice what you preach, and aren't in a position to lecture us about 'intersectionality', oppression, and representation.
Once again, intersectionality has nothing to do with interracial pairings, being black and female or black and gay does. Nobody faces plight due to being in an IR, maybe a couple snide comments here and there, but representation in the media is a completely different matter.
And yes, they did boycott Red Tails. Clutch magazine covered the event in one of their articles.
