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shyt.. are you his alias?

I already mentioned that scientists aren't perfect with their craft. I don't follow everything they say simply because. I mentioned that. But you seem to be unable to understand that I don't fully stand on one side. I rather lean towards one while definitely acknowledging possible flaws and inaccuracies. Your friend, on the other hand, dismisses all findings at lightning speed. Am I to believe that a man who thinks fossils are fake is worth debating and an intellectual equal? By no means do I consider myself intellectually superior - in fact, I am fully aware of how much I don't know - but your defense of this poster - along with your attempt to commiserate with science despite subtly channeling his train of thought - tells me more than I need.

Let me say this one last time - science is heavily flawed in many areas. Like all systems and industries, as you mentioned, there are things holding it back. But if we were to dispute and refute the vast majority of scientific discoveries and breakthroughs as @kingsmen does.. we wouldn't be getting very far. Please don't try the 'giant corporations and conformist thinking' trope - I am all too aware of it. So cliche.

Our existences serve no purpose if you think about it. We accumulate all this knowledge, this skill, this experience, and then we die in 70,80 years. We aren't even here for a purpose. We just happen to be the dominant lifeform on a habitable planet, in a very average solar system.
Lol scientists cant even figure out the mystery of consciousness, 80% of the light in the universe, the pyramids, where to place monoatomic gold on the periodic table of 'all elements,' shyt they practically explain all existence by acknowledging one free miracle - everything spontaneously appeared from nothing. Yet you've got the meaning of life sussed out riiiiight :martin:
 

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If there is no purpose in life, why are you defending so passionately useless products, ideas and information? Why is a useless lifeform even online speaking about his useless and pointless view if there is no purpose?
For someone who thinks hes got it all mapped out, he avoided this simple question like the plague :mjlol:
 

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Looks Like Germany Is About to Ban GMOs
Joshua Krause
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Isn’t it interesting how different countries treat the legality of genetically modified crops? Most governments, as well as their citizens, seem to be wary of planting lab grown crops on their soil. With the exception of the US, the world seems to be reaching a near unanimous tipping point in regards to Monsanto’s frankenfood.

Recently, Germany moved to stop the proliferation of these crops. A new EU law that was approved earlier this year would allow GMO’s to be grown in Europe, but German Agriculture Minister Christian Schmidt has expressed his desire to opt out of the law. A spokesman for the ministry told Bloomberg that “The German government is clear in that it seeks a nationwide cultivation ban,” and that “There’s resistance from all sides, from the public to the farmers.” Previous EU laws forced all member states to accept any GMO that was approved by Brussels, but under the new law each EU nation will have until October to opt out.

As GMO fears grow across the world, numerous governments have shied away from these crops. In 2013, there were 26 countries that had banned GMOs, while 60 others had placed some restrictions on them. Meanwhile, our government just keeps doubling down on GMOs, and has tried to outlaw the labeling of these foods, despite polls showing that most Americans want to know what they’re eating. But in America, money talks louder than ethics, so don’t expect to see any GMO restrictions in the US any time soon.

Looks Like Germany Is About to Ban GMOs | The Daily Sheeple

Germany Joins Scotland in Seeking Ban on Gene-Modified Seeds

Stefan Nicola


August 25, 2015 — 6:10 AM EDT


  • German opposition to GMO `comes from all sides,' ministry says
  • Gene-modified seeds are already mostly banned in the EU

Germany is taking steps to outlaw the cultivation of genetically modified crops in Europe’s biggest economy.

The Agriculture Ministry plans to officially request that producers of GMOs exclude Germany when applying to sell seeds in European Union, Christian Fronczak, a spokesman for the ministry, said Tuesday. Scotland took similar measures earlier this month.

“The German government is clear in that it seeks a nationwide cultivation ban,” Fronczak said by phone from Berlin. “There’s resistance from all sides, from the public to the farmers.”

Germany is taking advantage of new measures allowing countries to opt out of growing gene-modified crops. Switzerland’s Syngenta AG and U.S. rival Monsanto Co. have been among the strongest proponents of the seeds, which are mostly banned in the EU because of what some say are uncertain environmental and health effects. Monsanto maintains the products are safe.

The Agriculture Ministry has asked for the backing of state ministries in a letter sent in the past few days, Fronczak said. Germany gave state governments a deadline until Sept. 11 to reply. If it doesn’t hear any objections from the states, it will ask that companies exclude Germany from their applications to sell GMO seeds, Fronczak said.

There is one genetically modified crop, a variety of corn designed to be pest-resistant, already grown in the EU and eight pending applications for GMO seeds, according to an April statement from the European Commission.

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So Germany, a G7 "highly advanced" Western country, is rejecting GMOs because of unknown health and environmental consequences......:jbhmm:.....

But according to a tag team of coli posters GMOs are exactly the same/even better as those evil organic varieties. How could Germany reject these wholesome GMO seeds and food products, they're just trying to save the world with this frankenfood brehs :mjcry: :to:






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Twenty-Six Countries Ban GMOs—Why Won’t the US?
The case against GMOs has strengthened steadily over the last few years, even as the industry has expanded all over the world.
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Correction: At publication, this article incorrectly stated Monsanto’s contribution to the World Food Prize Foundation from 1999 to 2011 was $380 million. The correct figure is $380,000.

The Nation and Foreign Policy In Focus are pleased to announce a new partnership to promote a more progressive US foreign policy. Each week, The Nation will post several FPIF articles on its website to provide greater visibility to progressive voices from around the world. Complementing The Nation’s coverage of domestic and world events, the FPIF articles will provide in-depth analysis of the issues that demand greater public and policymaking attention such as global military spending, climate change, human rights campaigns, economic inequality and ongoing conflicts in Syria, Afghanistan and elsewhere. The Nation/FPIF coverage will also highlight concrete alternatives that can make the world more peaceful, more just and more sustainable. Foreign Policy In Focus is a project of the Institute for Policy Studies, which is celebrating its fiftieth anniversary in 2013.

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This article is a joint publication of TheNation.com and Foreign Policy in Focus.

The GMO wars escalated earlier this month when the 2013 World Food Prize was awarded to three chemical company executives, including Monsanto executive vice president and chief technology officer, Robert Fraley, responsible for development of genetically modified organisms (GMOs).

The choice of Fraley was widely protested, with eighty-one members of the prestigious World Future Council calling it “an affront to the growing international consensus on safe, ecological farming practices that have been scientifically proven to promote nutrition and sustainability.”

Monsanto’s Man

The choice of Monsanto’s man triggered accusations of prize buying. From 1999 to 2011, Monsanto donated $380,000 to the World Food Prize Foundation, in addition to a $5 million contribution in 2008 to help renovate the Hall of Laureates, a public museum honoring Norman Borlaug, the scientist who launched the Green Revolution.

For some, the award to Monsanto is actually a sign of desperation on the part of the GMO establishment, a move designed to contain the deepening controversy over the so-called biotechnological revolution in food and agriculture. The arguments of the critics are making headway. Owing to concern about the dangers and risks posed by genetically engineered organisms, many governments have instituted total or partial bans on their cultivation, importation, and field-testing.

A few years ago, there were sixteen countries that had total or partial bans on GMOs. Now there are at least twenty-six, including Switzerland, Australia, Austria, China, India, France, Germany, Hungary, Luxembourg, Greece, Bulgaria, Poland, Italy, Mexico and Russia. Significant restrictions on GMOs exist in about sixty other countries.

Restraints on trade in GMOs based on phyto-sanitary grounds, which are allowed under the World Trade Organization, have increased. Already, American rice farmers face strict limitations on their exports to the European Union, Japan, South Korea and the Philippines, and are banned altogether from Russia and Bulgaria because unapproved genetically engineered rice “escaped” during open-field trials on GMO rice. Certain Thai exports—particularly canned fruit salads containing papaya to Germany, and sardines in soy oil to Greece and the Netherlands—were recently banned due to threat of contamination by GMOs.

The Case against GMOs Gains Strength

The case against GMOs has strengthened steadily over the last few years. Critics say that genetic engineering disrupts the precise sequence of a food’s genetic code and disturbs the functions of neighboring genes, which can give rise to potentially toxic or allergenic molecules or even alter the nutritional value of food produced. The Bt toxin used in GMO corn, for example, was recently detected in the blood of pregnant women and their babies, with possibly harmful consequences.

A second objection concerns genetic contamination. A GMO crop, once released in the open, reproduces via pollination and interacts genetically with natural varieties of the same crop, producing what is called genetic contamination. According to a study published in Nature, one of the world’s leading scientific journals, Bt corn has contaminated indigenous varieties of corn tested in Oaxaca, Mexico.

Third, a GMO, brought into natural surroundings, may have a toxic or lethal impact on other living things. Thus, it was found that Bt corn destroyed the larvae of the monarch butterfly, raising well grounded fears that many other natural plant and animal life may be impacted in the same way.

Fourth, the benefits of GMOs have been oversold by the companies, like Monsanto and Syngenta, that peddle them. Most genetically engineered crops are either engineered to produce their own pesticide in the form of Bacillus thurengiensis (Bt) or are designed to be resistant to herbicides, so that herbicides can be sprayed in massive quantities to kill pests without harming the crops. It has been shown, however, that insects are fast developing resistance to Bt as well as to herbicides, resulting in even more massive infestation by the new superbugs. No substantial evidence exists that GM crops yield more than conventional crops. What genetically engineered crops definitely do lead to is greater use of pesticide, which is harmful both to humans and the environment.

A fifth argument is that patented GMO seeds concentrate power in the hands of a few biotech corporations and marginalize small farmers. As the statement of the eighty-one members of the World Future Council put it, “While profitable to the few companies producing them, GMO seeds reinforce a model of farming that undermines sustainability of cash-poor farmers, who make up most of the world’s hungry. GMO seeds continue farmers’ dependency on purchased seed and chemical inputs. The most dramatic impact of such dependency is in India, where 270,000 farmers, many trapped in debt for buying seeds and chemicals, committed suicide between 1995 and 2012.”

Some studies have sought to counter these accusations against GMOs, but they have been discredited by revelations that they were funded by biotechnology firms or conducted by researchers close to them.

The Philippines as GMO Battlefield

The key battleground in the battle over GMOs has shifted, over the years, from the developed to the developing world. The GMO advocates have deployed their big guns to convince African, Asian and Latin American governments to shift to GMOs. Among them are Bill and Melinda Gates, Columbia University economist Jeffrey Sachs, and Oxford economist Paul Collier, who argues that Africa needs a new “Green Revolution” based on genetically engineered seeds because it missed out on the first one, which was promoted by chemical-intensive agriculture.

The Philippines is one such battleground. Even as many other countries have tightened their controls over GMOs, the Philippine government has become more and more liberal in its granting of licenses for GMO production. According to Greenpeace Southeast Asia, it has allowed the importation of sixty genetically modified plants and plant products for direct use as food and feed or for processing, an additional eight GM plant varieties for propagation, and twenty-one modified plant varieties for field testing in Philippine soil. Despite concerns about its impact on the environment, Bt corn now has 750,000 hectares of Philippine land devoted to it. According to Greenpeace Southeast Asia spokesman Daniel Ocampo, no GMO application has ever been rejected, which is rather shocking given the controversy over their use.

A key reason for the liberal treatment of GMOs is the revolving door among government, academia and corporations. For instance, three of the most recent directors of the prestigious Institute of Plant Breeding of the University of the Philippines at Los Banos have either joined biotech multinationals or gone to work on projects funded by them. They also serve as members of or advisers to government bodies that oversee biosafety.

Judicial Restraints on GMOs

Anti-GMO activists and farmers have nevertheless made headway. Even as some make direct action forays like uprooting Bt eggplant field experimental sites, others have worked on the legal front. This paid off recently when the Philippine Court of Appeals—acting on a petition brought before it by Greenpeace, the NGO Masipag and several individuals—stopped the field testing of Bt eggplant on the grounds that there was no scientific consensus or legal framework for the introduction of Bt products. Importantly, the court also ruled that all stakeholders—not just industry or government scientists—should get to provide input on the introduction of GMOs like Bt eggplant.

In a sign of desperation, the University of the Philippines at Los Banos, one of the respondents in the case, argued that a ban on field testing of Bt eggplant would “violate academic freedom.” The court ruling stated, however, that, “Like any other right, the right to academic freedom ends when the overriding public welfare calls for some restraint. The right to academic freedom does not, in any way, give the respondent UPLB unbridled freedom to conduct experimentation, studies and research that may put to risk the health of the people and the environment which are equally protected under our fundamental law.”

It is unlikely, however, that this victory will discourage the GMO lobby from making the Philippines into a springboard for the introduction of Bt crops to the rest of Southeast Asia. Aside from Bt eggplant, the GMO advocates are pushing genetically altered “Golden Rice,” potatoes, soybeans, canola, cotton, sugarbeet and alfalfa. There’s big money in these crops, and the only thing that stands between the transnational corporations and big money are those pesky farmers, environmentalists and consumers.

Unfortunately for the biotech corporations, more people are listening to the words of scientists like Dr. Oscar Zamora, vice chancellor of the University of the Philippines at Los Banos, who says: “For every application of genetic engineering in agriculture in developing countries, there are a number of less hazardous and more sustainable approaches and practices with hundreds, if not thousands, of years of safety record behind them. None of the GE applications in agriculture today are valuable enough to farmers in developing countries to make it reasonable to expose the environment, farmers and the consumers to even the slightest risk.”

Twenty-Six Countries Ban GMOs—Why Won’t the US?
 
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