Gnosticism the true religion? Out of all the religions it’s the only one that explains the nature of our world and why evil flourishes.

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My question to @Mister Terrific is why are you attempting to push a particular belief system on people who already have their own, when you admit that you are an Athiest? You are using a character who is known to be exteremely intelligent as your avi, but you are committing an act that any intelligent non-believer would know is a waste of time. Are you doing it to just cause contention over an issue, theism, that you have aready admitted you categorically do not align with?
I suppose it’s a more satisfying explanation for our material universe than any other theological belief system. Also not inherently oppositional to Christianity. Christianity and other abrahamic religions break down at the point where you ask why does God allow evil to exist? How can we exist in a state of infinite entropy and competition if limited resources where our very existence depends on the murder if others when we are supposed to seek salvation through a loving God. The very laws of the universe are counter intuitive to Abraham faith.


Gnostism says the material universe is wholly separate from the spiritual world. Whereas in Christianity they are one and the same. So how can a wasp that lays its eggs in a caterpillar so its young can feed on its still alive body be of the same frequency of a benign diety?
 

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Whoever into Gnosticism drop some knowledge
Pistis Sophia decided to have a child on her own for some odd reason. That child, who is known by us as Jehovah, is the demiurge. He is not a full god, and created our reality, because he was not able to experience the true reality. His mother, feeling sorry for him, used herself to give everything the spark of life in this reality. Accordingly, we are all essentially fractals of her, and have forgotten that we really come from the true reality. Jesus, was sent by the Monad, the true overall god, to remind us of who we are so that we could escape this false reality controlled by the Demiurge. Oh, and the Demiurge does not know that there are other gods, and that he is essentially a malformed one, because his mother (who are really us if you think about it) wanted to be a single mother.

That is basic Gnosticism.
 

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I suppose it’s a more satisfying explanation for our material universe than any other theological belief system. Also not inherently oppositional to Christianity. Also, Christianity and other anthemic religions break down at the point where you ask why does God allow evil to exist? How can we exist in a state of infinite entropy when supposedly we are supposed to seal salvation through God. The very laws of the universe are counter intuitive to Abraham faith.


Gnostism says the material universe is wholly separate from the spiritual world. Whereas in Christianity they are one and the same. So how can a wasp that lays its eggs in a caterpillar so its young can feed on its still alive body be of the same frequency of a benign diety?

Another lie. Immortality and mortality are different realities. One is passing away and the other is always. Gnosticism is just an unbelievers way of trying to justify why they want to go to war with GOD.

GOD didn't cause you to live in this mortal world. Sin did, and your own sin confirms it. But GOD still gave a Way back to immortal life.
 

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Pistis Sophia decided to have a child on her own for some old reason. That child, who is known by us as Jehovah, is the demiurge. He is not a full god, and created our reality, because he was not able to experience the true reality. His mother, feeling sorry for him, used herself to give everything the spark of life in this reality. Accordingly, we are all essentially fractals of her, and have forgotten that we really come from the true reality. Jesus, was sent by the Monad, the true overall god, to remind us of who we are so that we could escape this false reality controlled by the Demiurge. Oh, and the Demiurge does not know that there are other gods, and that he is essentially a malformed one, because his mother (who are really us if you think about it) wanted to be a single mother.

That is basic Gnosticism.
That sounds interesting, ima look into this
 

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I suppose it’s a more satisfying explanation for our material universe than any other theological belief system. Also not inherently oppositional to Christianity. Christianity and other abrahamic religions break down at the point where you ask why does God allow evil to exist? How can we exist in a state of infinite entropy and competition if limited resources where our very existence depends on the murder if others when we are supposed to seek salvation through a loving God. The very laws of the universe are counter intuitive to Abraham faith.


Gnostism says the material universe is wholly separate from the spiritual world. Whereas in Christianity they are one and the same. So how can a wasp that lays its eggs in a caterpillar so its young can feed on its still alive body be of the same frequency of a benign diety?
There are other far better explainations that I hold to, but I understand what you mean when it comes to those who still want to hold on to their abrahamic roots. I personally like the short story, "The Egg", better has one that explains it in a nice neat package. It is a fictional story, but it does resonate with me on a certain level, and explains good and evil in a manner that shows no innocence is harmed, because everyone is really one person and our reality is pretty much a training simulation for a fetus of a god.
 

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Another lie. Immortality and mortality are different realities. One is passing away and the other is always. Gnosticism is just an unbelievers way of trying to justify why they want to go to war with GOD.

GOD didn't cause you to live in this mortal world. Sin did, and your own sin confirms it. But GOD still gave a Way back to immortal life.
So a baby that is born then immediately dies was produced from sin?

How can I go to war with an all powerful being? That’s like saying a grain of rice is at war with me.
 

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I suppose it’s a more satisfying explanation for our material universe than any other theological belief system. Also not inherently oppositional to Christianity. Christianity and other abrahamic religions break down at the point where you ask why does God allow evil to exist? How can we exist in a state of infinite entropy and competition if limited resources where our very existence depends on the murder if others when we are supposed to seek salvation through a loving God. The very laws of the universe are counter intuitive to Abraham faith.


Gnostism says the material universe is wholly separate from the spiritual world. Whereas in Christianity they are one and the same. So how can a wasp that lays its eggs in a caterpillar so its young can feed on its still alive body be of the same frequency of a benign diety?
because it could all be a function of eating food

you look around and say "it must be evil"

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i look around and say "I didnt make it, but someone/something did and it made me too"

now get up and make your own reality and tell us about it :umad: dont forget to give us reasons why we should do this and not that as well so that we dont anger you
 

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There are other far better explainations that I hold to, but I understand what you mean when it comes to those who still want to hold on to their abrahamic roots. I personally like the short story, "The Egg", better has one that explains it in a nice neat package. It is a fictional story, but it does resonate with me on a certain level, and explains good and evil in a manner that shows no innocence is harmed, because everyone is really one person and our reality is pretty much a training simulation for a fetus of a god.
You know I’ve been pondering on this idea for years that really the current chapter of our lives is training grounds to becoming “gods”or generally whatever is next, can’t prove it but it sounds right to me

I don’t subscribe to any religion, it can be all real or all fake as far as I’m concerned, No one can really state for assurance what is and what isn’t so I don’t understand the hostilities humans have with various religions
 

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because it could all be a function of eating food

you look around and say "it must be evil"

pokemon-memes-caterpie-gif


i look around and say "I didnt make it, but someone/something did and it made me too"

now get up and make your own reality and tell us about it :umad: dont forget to give us reasons why we should do this and not that as well so that we dont anger you
Until recently the food on our planet was in finite supply. The only way to accrue resources and not have your family or village community starve was to steal other people’s food usually through conquest. Hell our very existence on this earth is predicated on destroying life, even if you are a vegetarian you must consume the living through violent action. Is God inherently violent?
 

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I suppose it’s a more satisfying explanation for our material universe than any other theological belief system. Also not inherently oppositional to Christianity. Christianity and other abrahamic religions break down at the point where you ask why does God allow evil to exist? How can we exist in a state of infinite entropy and competition if limited resources where our very existence depends on the murder if others when we are supposed to seek salvation through a loving God. The very laws of the universe are counter intuitive to Abraham faith.


Gnostism says the material universe is wholly separate from the spiritual world. Whereas in Christianity they are one and the same. So how can a wasp that lays its eggs in a caterpillar so its young can feed on its still alive body be of the same frequency of a benign diety?
Are existence depends on murdering each other?
 

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Pistis Sophia decided to have a child on her own for some odd reason. That child, who is known by us as Jehovah, is the demiurge. He is not a full god, and created our reality, because he was not able to experience the true reality. His mother, feeling sorry for him, used herself to give everything the spark of life in this reality. Accordingly, we are all essentially fractals of her, and have forgotten that we really come from the true reality. Jesus, was sent by the Monad, the true overall god, to remind us of who we are so that we could escape this false reality controlled by the Demiurge. Oh, and the Demiurge does not know that there are other gods, and that he is essentially a malformed one, because his mother (who are really us if you think about it) wanted to be a single mother.

That is basic Gnosticism.
no its persian fire worship

put two flames next to eachother and say who is harming the other one

you'll say: this fire was hotter and blame it and say the fire that was cooler must be like refreshing breastmilk when they are both technically burning you.

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thats why when Abraham went into the fire, he emerged and Haran did not. Mesopotamia and the Assyrians never could get it right because they confuse people like you into not understanding the finer ideas about language.
 
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