Go Ahead, We`ll Wait: The Sequel: The official Packers @ 49ers 8pm 1/12/13 thread

[Ian1362]

have you seen our olinemen ? theyre fukking maulers, and our WRs and TEs block as well as anyone in the league

One factor that is likely impacting the lack of success on downfield throws is the 49ers' faltering run blocking.

This part of the offense fared very well during the first half of the season, as San Francisco's run-blockers posted a 52.8 percent good blocking rate (GBR) during that time frame.

GBR measures how often a team gives its ball carriers good blocking (which is very roughly defined as when the offense does not allow the defense to do anything to disrupt a rush attempt). To put that 52.8 percent GBR into perspective, it is just more than 3 percentage points higher than the league-leading 49.6 percent GBR posted by Minnesota in 2011.

The issue for the 49ers is their run blocking hasn't been anywhere near as good over the past eight weeks, as the team's GBR during those contests fell to a 44.9 percent level. That number gets even worse if the measurement is limited to the Week 11-17 contests in which San Francisco managed to post a 43.1 percent GBR.

A big part of the problem here is Davis, as he is one of the worst run blocking tight ends in the league.

The number of mistakes he makes in this area are overwhelming but not limited to his being the master of the very ineffective push block, not finishing his blocks well and sometimes putting his head down when initiating a block. This last item is physically dangerous and has the side benefit of not allowing him to see how to react to where the defender is moving. Davis also looks like he does not want to initiate contact with defenders and that trait may explain a lot of the aforementioned technical issues.

Fullback Bruce Miller is much better than Davis in his willingness to get after a defender but he gets overpowered at the point of attack so often that he really can't be counted on to lead runners through the line of scrimmage. This is almost certainly why the 49ers have been rotating defensive and offensive linemen into the backfield at the fullback position but it really hasn't helped that much since those linemen have not displayed the requisite ability to read the line of scrimmage with a running back's eye. For them it is usually run upfield and hit the first defender who shows up and that often isn't the highest percentage move for the run play called.

Add in the fact guards Mike Iupati and Alex Boone and center Jonathan Goodwin have all seen significant declines in their run blocking over the past eight weeks and it indicates this isn't a matter of just picking up the pace in the backfield and edge blockers.

 

[yseJ]

. Kapernick basically ignores Vernon Davis,

thats not true either. I dont see how people can make such conclusions at all.

biggest reason VD hasnt been getting the ball is because most teams double him or cover him well, which frees up other receivers

this especially has been true since kyle williams went down and manningham was injured until he suffered the final season-ending injury. teams basically were ok with turning attention on VD and dare other WRs to beat the corners. besides crabtree beasting, it kinda worked.

people want to talk about VD being absent but fact is 49ers just dont force balls to players who arent open. thats not Harbaugh's philosophy, and its actually quite similar to GB in that Rodgers will distribute the ball to the more open receiver than go to finley or nelson if theyre covered

 

[yseJ]

lol at VD being one of the worst run blockers in the league, that simply is not true,lol

part of the reason why our run blocking has been trending downwards is because of the qq formation kaep is familiar with as opposed to regular Iformation

either way, that article doesnt address my post in general. nickel package is bad against big linemen. you want LBs on the field when we do power runs.

 

[Ian1362]

I don't mean to come across as "lol SF is teh sucks either", definitely think the game could go either way. Stuff I mentioned is what makes me confident as a Packers fan though.

VD has graded out poorly as a run blocker all over the place (PFF, FO, advanced stats) since like 2008.

either way, that article doesnt address my post in general. nickel package is bad against big linemen. you want LBs on the field when we do power runs.

effective run defending teams already run nickel against run packages. Steelers do it a ton out a 4-6 alignment.

Something like this:

------TE---RT---RG---C---LG---LT----
----74-----79---------90---------------
-------------------------------99-----50
--------20-------------56---------------

The 46 type 2-4-5 alignment is a very run strong alignment, and trades some front 6 coverage ability to be where they can shut down the run.

Its hard to run nickel (2-4-5) as base and not be absolutely abused in the run game. When teams got it going though GB could bring out the 3-4 or the fat men formation with 3 NT's and shut it down. It also wouldn't work without that trait in your back pocket. Though a lot of teams are using more and of the amoeba concepts that Dom heavily integrates into GB's D.

It's not that unusual, most teams spend well over 50% of the game in nickel packages.

 

[yseJ]

VD has graded out poorly as a run blocker all over the place (PFF, FO, advanced stats) since like 2008.

lol.
I have pff stats and what youre saying is not true. hes been getting good grades there in all but one season since 2008.

he started this season in top 3 run blocking but tailed off, still top 15 tho

delaine is top 10 on there but hes not that much better than VD, its just hes used far more as a blocker out of that q 2rb formation. so hes the one blocking on whams usually

 

[BastardChild]

we are about to shyt on the pack today..
i feel it in my plums

 

[yseJ]

who are you ?

 

[Roaden Polynice]

I just can't root for people who wear food on their head.

Niners it is

 

[dza]

Heading out to the stick now brehs.
We ready.

 

[FaTaL]

i mean if the packers wanna be in their nickel against the niners base offense thats fantastic. with the way the niners just pushed them back in the first game coming off a week of rest its a recipe for a win. last night i was watching the nfl matchup on espn and they showed the play where gore ran in for that td backwards, gb only had 2 dlinemen in the game. that was

niners do struggle to run the ball against physical teams, but if your gonna just give it to the niners


well

 

[FaTaL]

we are about to shyt on the pack today..
i feel it in my plums

thats kinda fuked up

 

[FAH1223]

Yeah. Gore gets 150 yards and keeps GB offense off the field. Dom Capers is gonna blow it

 

[FaTaL]

i like how the media has portrayed that aldon smith is only successful because of justin

reality is, aldon has a bad shoulder and hasnt been the same

 

[Regular_P]

I think Rodgers is gonna have a monster game in a fairly easy win for the Packers. They are playing their best ball and getting healthy while the Niners are the opposite right now.

 

[yseJ]

i like how the media has portrayed that aldon smith is only successful because of justin

reality is, aldon has a bad shoulder and hasnt been the same

I dont think theyre saying hes "only" successful because of justin

I think theyre more amazed with the relevation of how important justin is to this team. cuz like causal ass fans they didnt understand its a collective team effort.