go to school!

[Dank Hill]

You're right breh




We need to get an entrepreneurship thread going with people giving vivid details of how they were able to make it.



Even through reddit is racist CAC central there entrepreneur threads are treasure troves of information. We need something similar here.

We have one somewhere which is where I posted my own story but I can't find it right now.

 

[NSSVO]

Wasted a lot of years doing absolute fukkery. Going back pretty soon. Life.

 

[BrandonBanks]

I hear you breh, but that just sounds like you limiting your options with that kind of thinking. We may not have the resources or support cacs get when they first leave the nest, but its very much possible to do it on your own and come out on top. I didn't get any support from family mentally and financially but here I am today.

I definitely think more black men need to become entrepreneurs, i've said it on here numerous times, but I also say that more of us need to get into trades as well. This ALL would help black men and boys as a group. More trades, degrees, and entrepreneurs. Different people can play different roles. But either way we slice it, more of us need to get into these things.

There needs to be less glamorizing of repping sets, selling drugs, etc. I'm not saying school should be glamorized, but i'd definitely rather we encourage that as an alternative to what many dudes are doing now.

A lot of stuff can definitely be learned online without enrolling in school but i think a lot of these guys would learn the stuff better if they know exactly what books to study, have homework, tests, etc. I mean for a lot of black boys and men, there isn't some older cat who will come explain stuff to them and give them books to study, etc, if they didn't have a dad or some other man to teach them these things, then they have to get this stuff on their own somehow, if you don't have the resources and aren't sure where to begin and also want some sort of certification under your belt, school is definitely a better option than hustling on the side while working a dead end job.

We're at a point where a lot of dudes know about these things in detail: sneakers and colorways, video game levels, clothing designers/brands, rappers/industrygossip/music, athletes, baking, etc. Yet know nothing about carpentry, or plumbing, or mechanics, or starting a business etc any of those things. Dudes know all about stuff that is either useless or will get them locked up for 20 yrs, but know nothing about skills that can make them some decent bread. That's why i think it would be good if more wouldn't shun college or trade school so much, i think it would actually help a lot of these dudes if they take it seriously and apply themselves. A lot ppl on here make it sound like it's impossible for young black men esp poorer ones to get a degree or trade but it's a lot easier and safer to do that than to survive this street life, where you have to constantly try to avoid robbery, jailtime, death, etc

I've known Mexicans who went to CCs or trade school, finished, then got jobs doing whatever they went for, worked there for awhile and then pooled their money together to start their own business. This is what a lot of them are doing. One problem i see with black men is that a lot of us do not want to pool resources together like other groups are, and we also limit ourselves individually, good example of this is somebody in here bringing up student loan debt as a reason for us not to go to school. That's pretty much a "give up before you even start" mentality. Of course school is not for everyone but as a group we are extremely underrepresented in areas that can benefit us (education, entrepreneurship, etc) and extremely OVERREPRESENTED in areas where we should not be. That's a problem.

More of us need to learn trades/get degrees, and start businesses. ALL of those things. Some should do both (trade/business), some should do one. Not everyone has to do both, but more of us need to do these some these things as a GROUP. If more of us learn more skills, and pool more resources together, then we can open more businesses and hire other black ppl. But we all have some sort of role to play.

I think OP is just saying a lot of black men need to stop looking down on school so much. I agree 100%.

 

[Afro]

Exactly. This is basically what i was going to say in response to that post excuse.

Brothers who are reading this...because i don't give a flying fukk about cacs, only US, listen, stop going around spreading this "reasoning",about why it's better for a black male in america to not have a trade or degree. I'm serious. If the degree thing isn't your thing, then at least learn a TRADE. And stop telling other nikkas that they're better off without it. Other nikkas who listen to your rhetoric are going to think they'll be "okay" trying to provide for a wife and kids in the future with no training, certifications or skills under their belt. This isn't like in our parents time where a black man could just not have any formal training/certifications and just go get a job and buy a house etc.

Degrees and trades have a bad wrap with a lot of you, but what we're saying is it generally gives you a bit more options. It still won't be easy, but it's a lot harder when you didn't go to any sort of post secondary school, especially in certain areas.

"Oh you'll get student loan debt if you go to school!" Well buddy, if you don't want a lot of debt, go to the local CC at least, apply for financial aid (NO EXCUSES, it's free to apply and you can do it online), see if you qualify for a Pell Grant, or anything else, i've known dudes who got their tuition and books paid for and also got a job on campus doing work study (free to apply for that as well, it's offered to students who need the help financially and maintain a certain GPA).

And IMO, it's not the worst thing to take out a loan IF YOU HAVE TO. That's the thing, i wouldn't recommend somebody to take out a loan if you don't really NEED it, but if you do, it isn't the worst thing in the world. It's better than slinging coke for money and consequently getting locked up That's worse, but doesn't stop a lot of brehs from doing it anyway. No more excuses.

nikkas will talk down on community college, 4 yr schools and trade school, but will complain that Mexicans are getting construction jobs, being plumbers, mechanics, etc if you're anti-degrees/trades, then don't complain about these other races "taking all the jobs". Some of them may look "dusty" but a lot of them do take full advantage of what schools offer them. I can say that much.

You won't have nearly as much loan debt at a CC anyway and many also offer trades if that's what you're interested in. I know a dude who was working fast food but went to a CC for auto/mechanics and got a better paying position afterwards at a dealership, one of his teachers actually got him on. School can be good for networking too.

So yeah...loan debt isn't IDEAL but some ppl DO need loans, it's not the worst thing in the world to take out a loan if you really need to. I wouldn't recommend going around taking them out if 1) you have other options, or 2) you plan to take out a whole lot of them. But if necessary, and in moderation, it's not the worst thing in the world.

Yo, real talk. This post got me really thinking...

Every online course(non-college) I take or blog I read is a white person teaching/writing(usually). That comes with only their perspective.

So I'm thinking I can do everything like them, no need for college, my skills will shine through, etc. But you reminded me that most vocations have a severe lack of us to begin with. No black person is going to be greeting me at the door. How am I going to get my foot in the door with less than the white/indian dudes I'm competing with?

You got me rethinking shyt in a good way man, thank you.

 

[BrandonBanks]

Even though reddit is racist CAC central there entrepreneur threads are treasure troves of information. We need something similar here.

True. Imagine more entrepreneurship threads on The Coli that aren't filled with brehs calling ppl "militant" or "crazy"

There was a thread on Reddit started by some dude who started his own landscaping company, another one on Forex trading and another guy with a food truck etc. We need more stuff like that on here, and for it to flow freely instead of the usual naysayers coming in to derail

 

[BrandonBanks]

Yo, real talk. This post got me really thinking...

Every online course(non-college) I take or blog I read is a white person teaching/writing(usually). That comes with only their perspective.

So I'm thinking I can do everything like them, no need for college, my skills will shine through, etc. But you reminded me that most vocations have a severe lack of us to begin with. No black person is going to be greeting me at the door. How am I going to get my foot in the door with less than the white/indian dudes I'm competing with?

You got me rethinking shyt in a good way man, thank you.

You're welcome man.

I'm glad what i said made sense to at least one breh on here.

Salute to you brother

 

[I love Latina women]

yeah it will give you more opportunities depending on the degree, school, etc. No doubt about that.

yup, definitely

 

[I love Latina women]

i feel you breh

yeah, it only gets more challenging and harder the older you get because more responsibilities are involved

 

[Voice of Reason]

True. Imagine more entrepreneurship threads on The Coli that aren't filled with brehs calling ppl "militant" or "crazy"

There was a thread on Reddit started by some dude who started his own landscaping company, another one on Forex trading and another guy with a food truck etc. We need more stuff like that on here, and for it to flow freely instead of the usual naysayers coming in to derail

Yeah the one where they guy started a cleaning service really got me thinking. I agree with you though, we need more of those here. The guys here that are supposedly successful are as vague and opaque as possible. I know they want to remain anonymous but damn.