Ok cool. Now that we've established that
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Where's a Steve Nash poll?
Oh yeah......he's forgotten already
Go vote on espn.com. who was the better player .kobe or Lebron. link inside
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Where's a Steve Nash poll?
Oh yeah......he's forgotten already
I honestly thought Bron would take it, considering kobe hasn't really been prime kobe since the iphone 4 dropped
Voted kobe tho.
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In todays urban society/generation the person thats currently on top of their profession is usually the most hated, and belittled at the time (jay-z, floyd mayweather, lebron james). These people arent going to be respected like they should until years after they retire. This poll will look a lot different 5-10 years down the line.
Ben.
Heisenbrook
Kobe stains so insecure 
GoddamnyamanProf
Countdown to Armageddon
0/10Where's a Steve Nash poll?
Oh yeah......he's forgotten already
It was taken in the moment. We don't count those.Ok cool. Now that we've established that
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TBH, it's LBJ's hype machine and stans that turn alot of people from LBJ. All the premature king talk, second coming, etc., without actually accomplishing anything was just
to a lot of people.
Whitty Hutton
these posters are TRASH
Hakeem wasn't more unstoppable than a prime Shaq though
And lol @ Kobe being a better version of MJ
Bomberman
Like a C4.
You can foul Shaq though. Hakeem was a great free throw shooter. The only way you could stop Hakeem was hope he had an off night.
There was nothing Jordan did that Kobe couldn't. It's the truth really. If people deny this, then there is simply no truth to saying that Kobe copied Jordan's moves. That'd mean from here on out that argument has no weight and all of those fadeaways Kobe pulled off were moves we've never seen before. But that's not the truth. So Kobe had Jordan's moves.
However, Kobe had new school handles and pulled off moves Jordan never had, simply because they weren't in Jordan's time. Only advantage Jordan really had was explosive athleticism, and Prime Kobe was a high flyer as well. However, I'll even say Kobe has shown more body control than MJ. I don't think any athlete has shown more body control than Kobe, that's where his athleticism really shines. Not just when he's in air either, but the change of speeds on the ground as well.
Jordan still one of my favorite players of all-time, but to say Kobe didn't have all his moves and even more with a ton more range is just denying the truth.
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nikkas don't understand man
Kobe was too good. The rape trial fukked him up, if that never went down he would have remained the NBA's golden boy, multiple Mvps
Kobe was too good. The rape trial fukked him up, if that never went down he would have remained the NBA's golden boy, multiple Mvps
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Ben.
Heisenbrook
Most unstoppable? Why does his finals numbers drop so drastically compared to his RS and even his series before the finals if he's so unstoppable. I'd say when he gets going he's the best scorer ever or in terms of putting up prolific numbers in a game or in a certain span (like his multiple 40ppg months). If I would say someone was unstoppable I'd pick someone who's consistently dominant and numbers don't drop drastically going into the playoffs/finals (Jordan and Shaq for instance). Kobe could do all of MJs moves and more but not nearly as successful/efficient (mostly in the post).
+The bold of the second post is absolutely false Jordan's mid air and body control cannot be compared with
Bomberman
Like a C4.
I'm simply talking about skillsets when I say unstoppable force. Kobe had more ways to beat you than Jordan did. Even if there is a slight difference in FG% the fact that someone has a more diverse offensive game means he's harder to guard. Thus more unstoppable.
At the end of the day, Jordan never pulled off stuff like this:
But there are plenty of videos of Kobe shooting fadeaways and doing post work like Jordan. Even Tex Wynter claimed that Kobe was Jordan's equal in the post. Claiming that Kobe probably could have had a higher FG% if he didn't shoot more three's and worked from the post more.
That all being said, when it comes to efficiency, all I really care about is winning. Kobe has proven he can get trophies playing his style.
My statement in large part is based on the fact that Kobe has a more versatile skillset and wins championships with it. Sure Jordan has more rings and did great things in the playoffs, but Kobe still only has one shy and has done great work in the Finals and play-offs through his career as well. The thing is there are more holes in Jordan's offensive game (handling and range) than Kobe's, that's all I'm getting at.
Here's also an awesome discussion about Kobe's body control and unique athleticism. I know Jordan had a ton of it too, but there are a lot of videos of Kobe doing the exact same thing.
http://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/1nlbs0/how_athletic_was_kobe_bryant_frobekb8_version/